House Timer RNG

[MizArai]

But then they are easy to spot.

That's the point. Right now people will spend 5+ hours camping a placard to maybe get a plot. I've seen people camp a placard that long for an FC house only to have someone relocate to the plot, which means people then have to find and camp the new plot wherever that is. If there was some way to distinguish between plots that will be available for purchase and plots that are available for purchase it would make things much easier. People could camp an aetheryte if they needed a new house, while relocaters could still just move when they see anything open.

[Shouko]

I doubt SE would do that for FC's since players are already trying to bypass the timers by putting dummy FCs to transfer housing ownership that way.

Make FC, buy house, go to reddit to sell house, buyer joins FC and buys house, seller leaves FC, house now belongs to buyer in a solo player FC.

It's roundabout as hell, but it was happening.

Requires 4 people and rank 6 to purchase a plot now, 1 person FC purchases aren't possible, so technically you would have to have 3 people doing this and getting said FC to rank 6, so while not impossible to do as you say it would be a lot more time consuming and take a hell of a lot more time.

[Hasrat]

Requires 4 people and rank 6 to purchase a plot now, 1 person FC purchases aren't possible, so technically you would have to have 3 people doing this and getting said FC to rank 6, so while not impossible to do as you say it would be a lot more time consuming and take a hell of a lot more time.

Game doesn't check for "people," only "members." Get someone to help get alt characters into your FC, and you've effectively got a 1 person FC. It's no harder now than it ever was to achieve FC housing.

[AnimaAnimus]

Blame the house flippers that made the housing market so bad that SE had to step in

More like, blame SE for creating a housing system that was so bad it created a need for house flippers.

We fight amongst ourselves too often when SE is actually the one at fault.

[Madbunny]

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You know why in almost any online game (especially MMO) you have RMT? Because there is a demand for them and this doesnt come fro the company behind the game but exclusively from the players. Same thing apply for house flippers. If people arent willing to pay 5-10 and more times for the house they would not exist as there will be no demand for them. The fact is that until players stop paying so ridiculous high prices there will be always a demand for house flippers. What SE could do is start applying harsher penalties for both parties, the house flipper and the buyer, e.g. the (in)famous permanent ban hammer. Only then we can expect this situation to change.

[Elamys]

Yes, but having a system that didn't encourage flipping would get rid of related activities entirely.

[Shouko]

Game doesn't check for "people," only "members." Get someone to help get alt characters into your FC, and you've effectively got a 1 person FC. It's no harder now than it ever was to achieve FC housing.

Hmm I guess I read it wrong.

[Madbunny]

Yes, but having a system that didn't encourage flipping would get rid of related activities entirely.

The game doesnt encourage RMT but we have them. Everything boils down to people who want quick and easy way and this is more than enough for them to seek for "shortcuts".

[Claviusnex]

Requires 4 people and rank 6 to purchase a plot now, 1 person FC purchases aren't possible, so technically you would have to have 3 people doing this and getting said FC to rank 6, so while not impossible to do as you say it would be a lot more time consuming and take a hell of a lot more time.

Once an FC house is bought you only need one FC member to keep it and that member can be any level. One thing that appears to be happening is the flippers buy an FC house using a main and alts. They then invite the player purchasing he house to the FC and then drop out. If nobody buys the FC right away they are also known to transfer it to a lvl 1 character who would do the invite and transfer later when it sells.

The only way to stop flipping is to create an unlimited supply of houses. This would undercut the demand that flippers exploit.

[Divinemights]

The only way to stop flipping is to create an unlimited supply of houses. This would undercut the demand that flippers exploit.

This FC trick is probably only work once and that is it. It will not be able to continuously flipping as the new owner is unlikely to go through same painful process.
Also, this is likely only to be an issue for server like Balmung (Levithan is pretty big too but i dont see any fake FC owned houses) and because people want hoarding there.