House Timer RNG

[Veve]

I understand that the RNG timer is a good thing, and I don't dispute it mostly. I do think however that if buying it for an FC you should be able to bypass it.

I've just spent nearly an hour clicking the placard of an empty plot trying to purchase it for my FC (we dont have a house, and I dont even own a personal), but we are restricted to the same timer.

I know some people have abused this system on some servers with multiple FC's, but we are just looking for a home.

[Gralna]

Blame the house flippers that made the housing market so bad that SE had to step in, and it wasn't always just individuals buying flipped houses either, there were quite a few FCs that were shelling out gil and sometimes $$ for a flipped house.

Would be nice though if there was some kind of visual indicator though that a house was available to be purchased.

Do wish you luck though in getting your FC house

[Madbunny]

Would be nice though if there was some kind of visual indicator though that a house was available to be purchased.

Bad idea as it could be abused by bots intercepting the information to the client or the less advanced bots by abusing the visual change. In both ways they would be able to buy the house before you even see the change on your map what would make impossible to compete. Not sure if here we have same delay like on MP when you click too fast between items, but if is present that means everyone have equal chance.

[Dustytome]

Bad idea as it could be abused by bots intercepting the information to the client or the less advanced bots by abusing the visual change. In both ways they would be able to buy the house before you even see the change on your map what would make impossible to compete. Not sure if here we have same delay like on MP when you click too fast between items, but if is present that means everyone have equal chance.

They can also check the placard consistently for hours/days without breaks. Might as well make it easier for actual players to see if something actually available.

[Madbunny]

They can also check the placard consistently for hours/days without breaks. Might as well make it easier for actual players to see if something actually available.

But then they are easy to spot. Even if SE doesnt have right now any mechanism to spot this kind of bots it would be easy for them to make one, e.g. if a character does more than X amount of clicks in Y amount of time GM gets the notification and can easily check what is going on. Actually this is so easy to spot that no bots are using this actions anymore and i saw GM fighting all sorts of bots in other games (as FF isnt my 1st MMO). Other solution would be some random timer for checks with long pauses but then there is no point to run them and legitimate players are back in the "game" with same chance to grab the plot.

[MizArai]

But then they are easy to spot.

That's the point. Right now people will spend 5+ hours camping a placard to maybe get a plot. I've seen people camp a placard that long for an FC house only to have someone relocate to the plot, which means people then have to find and camp the new plot wherever that is. If there was some way to distinguish between plots that will be available for purchase and plots that are available for purchase it would make things much easier. People could camp an aetheryte if they needed a new house, while relocaters could still just move when they see anything open.

[AnimaAnimus]

Blame the house flippers that made the housing market so bad that SE had to step in

More like, blame SE for creating a housing system that was so bad it created a need for house flippers.

We fight amongst ourselves too often when SE is actually the one at fault.

[Madbunny]

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You know why in almost any online game (especially MMO) you have RMT? Because there is a demand for them and this doesnt come fro the company behind the game but exclusively from the players. Same thing apply for house flippers. If people arent willing to pay 5-10 and more times for the house they would not exist as there will be no demand for them. The fact is that until players stop paying so ridiculous high prices there will be always a demand for house flippers. What SE could do is start applying harsher penalties for both parties, the house flipper and the buyer, e.g. the (in)famous permanent ban hammer. Only then we can expect this situation to change.

[Casra]

Blame the house flippers that made the housing market so bad that SE had to step in, and it wasn't always just individuals buying flipped houses either, there were quite a few FCs that were shelling out gil and sometimes $$ for a flipped house.

Would be nice though if there was some kind of visual indicator though that a house was available to be purchased.

Do wish you luck though in getting your FC house

Cause adding more plots to full housing servers would just be a craaaazy idea am I right?

[Gethsemane]

I honestly hope they add more plots. I'm beginning to hate camp for 10-12 hours—or more—only to lose it to someone moving in. I hate the fact that bypasses those of trying to honestly purchase a house. I don't fancy sitting for hours on end just to get a house. I've got stuff to do in real life, SE.