House Timer RNG

[Claviusnex]

This FC trick is probably only work once and that is it. It will not be able to continuously flipping as the new owner is unlikely to go through same painful process.
Also, this is likely only to be an issue for server like Balmung (Levithan is pretty big too but i dont see any fake FC owned houses) and because people want hoarding there.

House flipping is not a serial event on a single house. House flipping is gil sellers buying as many as they can and selling them to any players who can't win the race to buy an open property. The method I detailed will work over and over as once a character is dropped from an FC it can buy another house. So buy house, transfer to a lvl 1 placeholder character, drop high level members from FC and repeat. As I said the only way to stop flippers or any RMT for that matter is to reduce demand. In housing SE developing a system where they can provide unlimited housing would eliminate the manufactured demand of the current limited housing system.

[LadyKairi]

Enabling FCs to bypass the timer completely defeats the purpose of the timer. Solo players weren’t the only ones selling plots. I know it’s annoying, but it is necessary. House flippers are why we cannot have nice things.

[Frizze]

And i know this is in no way helpful, but for the first 2 weeks after the wards opened the only people who could purchase land were FCs. Individuals could transfer to a new plot(as could FCs), but that doesnt reduce the number of open plots. So the FCs already had an advantage.

[Elamys]

Players have to make those clicks too if someone else is around, or else they risk losing it. I had a friend camping a placard lose the plot because he stopped clicking to type something to someone RIGHT when it became available to purchase. That wouldn't work either.

[Elamys]

Yes, but having a system that didn't encourage flipping would get rid of related activities entirely.

[Madbunny]

Yes, but having a system that didn't encourage flipping would get rid of related activities entirely.

The game doesnt encourage RMT but we have them. Everything boils down to people who want quick and easy way and this is more than enough for them to seek for "shortcuts".

[Penthea]

I understand that the RNG timer is a good thing, and I don't dispute it mostly. I do think however that if buying it for an FC you should be able to bypass it.

I know some people have abused this system on some servers with multiple FC's, but we are just looking for a home.

And you have just answered yourself why the timer is RNG. It was too easy to abuse the system before. The unfortunate side effect is legitimate buyers are also hurt by this change. There is no concrete way to see if a buyer is legit or not sadly, so we're stuck with it at least for now.

[LadyKairi]

One thing that confuses me here, OP.... FCs had a head start for purchases. How did you not take advantage of it? Especially with how long the restriction was in place?

[HaoNam]

I understand that the RNG timer is a good thing, and I don\\'t dispute it mostly. I do think however that if buying it for an FC you should be able to bypass it.

I\\'ve just spent nearly an hour clicking the placard of an empty plot trying to purchase it for my FC (we dont have a house, and I dont even own a personal), but we are restricted to the same timer.

I know some people have abused this system on some servers with multiple FC\\'s, but we are just looking for a home.

This may/not be the best solution. However, this method works for many FCs on my server. You need to expand the list of people that can purchase the FC house on a given plot. You need to allow your trusted officers to buy as well. The gil is placed in the FC chest and any of those trusted officers currently on can go purchase the plot when it is available rather than waiting for the FC leader.

[AnimaAnimus]

You are still making excuses for SE here. We are talking about housing, RMT are a whole different can of worms. In other MMOs, like you wanted to point out, there are no problems with people selling houses at inflated prices, because those companies took a moment to create a system that distribute houses in such a way that its not a big deal. Everyone has access to a house.

Lets look at an example. In ESO Bethesda allows you to buy houses with in game currency at very reasonable prices or via their cash shop and to add sugar to this already delectable dessert, for every dollar you spend on a sub you get cash shop credit, so 6 months worth of a sub (which can be paid in bulk) gives you enough to buy the biggest house in the game and everyone can have one and all you alts can share it. This eliminates the need to buy gold or to create a housing market with inflated prices. They thought ahead, created a system that is fair and frankly, works wonderfully. Let's not even get into how much better their housing system is overall. They took time to create it and make sure things worked well. SE rushed it to get it out as fast as they could, which is why its has issues like blinking and furnishings have all kinds of arbitrary rules that feel antiquated. Frankly I like my ESO houses, where my mounts and minions can roam and I can put a bed on a table if I want and I can lean a chair against a wall. But I digress.

Being an apologist for poor design is not going to improve the system. Which is why we should stop fighting with each other, its SE at fault here, purely and simply. If they would change the system or create a better one they could easily eliminate the problem they themselves created.

Ever since relaunch we sit here pointing fingers at each other for things beyond our control, when we should be putting more pressure on the devs to fix what they broke