Think the game will succeed?

[Dreamer]

Will it succeed? Yes.

Will it ever have subscriber numbers approaching what we see with WoW, Aion, and Rift? No.

While I think it'll eventually be successful enough to redeem the FF name for online titles, you can't be a genre leader by copying the genre standards.

[XxOstiaxX]

you are missing the point re-read my post. you are talking about current game, i am talking about 2.0. ppl talking about beta testing 2.0 is my point, how can this be a 2.0 beta test when 2.0 will use a different server and game engine, if this was a 2.0 beta test why can't no1 tell me what the crystal tower is like or how well balanced the PvP is.

my piont is you can't say 2.0 will fail because you haven't tried it, and you can't call this a 2.0 beta test, because its not

But it is, every single application that they add and system will be tested this year and implemented and improved for 2.0, every little bit of content that they add we will test, and that will be streamlined into 2.0, so please do tell me how it is not a beta ? because it is

[XxOstiaxX]

Exactly this ^

You would never catch me with a flippin light saber in my hands.

Because wielding a sword with red glow, flames or some sort of light radiance sure does not look like a light saber :/

[Holland]

Because wielding a sword with red glow, flames or some sort of light radiance sure does not look like a light saber :/

Do you know the difference between a mechanical weapon versus a magical one? :/

[grandm]

But it is, every single application that they add and system will be tested this year and implemented and improved for 2.0, every little bit of content that they add we will test, and that will be streamlined into 2.0, so please do tell me how it is not a beta ? because it is

wrong. we will not get to play the crystal tower or experience the ishgard content. maybe when they release the new game engine and server, we will get a chance to really beta test it, what we are doing now is not beta test tho, to be honest it is very hard to describe what we are doing now, as far as i know this is the first time any1 has designed a games inner workings while ppl still play the game, if you want to say we are testing 2.0 fair enough but leave the word beta out

[AmyRae]

But it is, every single application that they add and system will be tested this year and implemented and improved for 2.0, every little bit of content that they add we will test, and that will be streamlined into 2.0, so please do tell me how it is not a beta ? because it is

When the PS3 players who have those dusty old codes they got from buying FFXIII get to finally use them to sign up for the FFXIV 2.0 beta test, and you'll see the screenshots and videos of them gallivanting in an MMO that actually works properly, then you'll understand that you're not actually beta testing anything.

[Nuru]

Honestly, this really depends on how the player feels about the game itself, and if they are playing any other games. etc.

As for me, I'm a fan of the Final Fantasy Series and a veteran player of FFXI, so my opinion may be a bit different from someone that is currently playing other MMORPGs. I devote myself to a single game from each genre pretty much, and I am devoted to FFXIV being my mmorpg.

I like to try other games and I must say that most of them seem much more complete than FFXIV, even in their beta phases. However, the overall experience of playing these games just doesn't keep me interested. I loved Star Wars and remember playing with the toys as a child and such, but nothing quite feels like Star Wars should have became an MMORPG, I'd rather like to see a X-WING remake or something. Anyways, I can see ToR becoming a success for a few years, but then everyone will move on to the next mmorpg.

FFXIV to me is like my experience with FFXI, even though there were other mmorpgs out there, I always moved back to playing FFXI. I can't tell you exactly what it was that always drew me back to playing it, but all I can say is that my experience with FFXI was a love/hate relationship. I had no relationship with other mmos, so I guess that explains how i felt.

Now, for FFXIV, I believe it is going to be successful, in the same way FFXI was. It will be that game you will find yourself going back to, no matter how much it frustrated you. That's just how I see FFXIV and how it is going to be. Right now, it sort of gives off that feel, even though its far from what the players want out of it. All I can say is that I'll definitely be playing FFXIV for the long haul.

[Lienn]

IMHO this FF Yoshida is making doesn't seems to have what's needed to compete with any of the current MMOs or even with the ones about to be released like SWTOR.

Yoshida's FFXIV can't even compete with older MMOs like WoW or FFXI...and i really doubt it ever will...he's making an oversimplified game that is mediocre regarding any aspect other than graphics and sound.

I still think the original FFXIV does could be an even match to any modern MMO we see here in population (which is what matters)...even SWTOR...because the concept behind it makes it extremely casual-friendly, which would leave it with a completely different target population, not really competing with the said HC MMOs.

But what is done, is done. I still think this game can succeed...but not in the path it is. If they want FFXIV to follow the HC path then the first step would be getting rid of FFXI...but FFXI > Yoshida's FFXIV...so i actually would turn the FFXIV into a HD remake of FFXI...in the end it's what people wanted at start! I'd convert the entire FFXI to FFXIV graphic standards, and merge them both. Maybe making it in a future timeline...a brand new storyline that would, this time, involve all nations not only from Quon and Midartia, but also Aht Urghan and Eorzea. Vana'diel even have the Maws for those willing to have some nostalgic moments at original storyline...instead of going back to only the great war, this time you could also go back in time to what is the current present of FFXI.

And, to make up to the "loss" of FFXI subscribers (let's pretend that a HD version of FFXI wouldn't bring most of the old playerbase back) i do would relaunch the original FFXIV to focus on casual players. In the end they both would, instead of competing, work in parallel, each one focusing on their target public and excelling in it.

[Petdo]

I think, if this game can generate constant income ( and profit too! ) for SE, it can say its success.
This game can't compare to mass-market MMO like other game but FF fans gonna play it

[redmage]

I feel the same way, Nuru! I am actually looking forward to both GW2 and FFXIV 2.0 and plan to play both, switching it up depending on my mood. I have high hopes for 2.0, but unsure at just how successful it'll be. Still, I'm a fan through-and-through and will support it for as long as I enjoy myself playing it.

Also, I hope for SE's sake that the E3 trailer won't just be pre-rendered cut-scenes (which will be beautiful, no doubt). I want them to show gameplay and things we are all looking forward to for 2.0 : redesigned environments, new classes/jobs, gameplay, extra goodies like housing, male miqote/female highlanders and roegadyns, etc. I don't want it to just be a pretty movie!