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  1. #21
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    AvenoMatt's Avatar
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    Avnus Vabruyt
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    Diabolos
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
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    I love both of your views on machinist. I'm currently leveling machinist and even though I know it not the most popular job or the easiest to play I enjoy it and I think that's why I enjoy it. I also owe a thanks to you ThirdChild_ZKI for that 121323 rotation because it makes so much sense for maximizing dps.
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  2. #22
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    Eliana Eisenhower
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    Behemoth
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    Astrologian Lv 75
    thank you all for your insight
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  3. #23
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MedSurgNursing View Post
    thank you all for your insight
    Glad I could help in some way ^u^
    Quote Originally Posted by AvenoMatt View Post
    I love both of your views on machinist. I'm currently leveling machinist and even though I know it not the most popular job or the easiest to play I enjoy it and I think that's why I enjoy it. I also owe a thanks to you ThirdChild_ZKI for that 121323 rotation because it makes so much sense for maximizing dps.
    Let's not forget the absolutely sick goggles the AF1 MCH goggles MCH gets.
    edit: God was I half asleep or something? Goggles...goggles...MCH goggles MCH... XD

    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    You know, it's been REALLY hard to want to replace my goggles. I haven't seen any Aiming head gear yet that made me want to wear it instead of my goggles
    I was expecting AF2 goggles to be even half as cool, but was sorely disappointed. They don't even /visor!
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    Last edited by Dualgunner; 02-23-2018 at 06:43 AM.

  4. #24
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
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    Machinist Lv 80
    You know, it's been REALLY hard to want to replace my goggles. I haven't seen any Aiming head gear yet that made me want to wear it instead of my goggles
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  5. #25
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    Puppyleon Pupperlonez
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    Tonberry
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Agree with most of what had been discussed in the thread in regards to MCH. I personally prefer MCH because of the aesthetics and in terms of gameplay I have fewer things to manage compared to BRD.

    The biggest issue and pain is when you get latency issues/spikes during wildfire. It is a severe punishment besides the occasional clipping as mentioned by others. And I'm also one of the mch that struggles to recover once I die once.
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  6. #26
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    Cecilious Spina
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    I have yet to play Bard in 4.0 but I did love it in 3.0. I used BLM as my main so playing as a BRD was a nice change of pace. I only got MCH to level 35 as I couldn't get into it.
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  7. #27
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    Whiskey Bravo
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaj85 View Post
    I only got MCH to level 35 as I couldn't get into it.
    I felt similarly. I think I got to level 32 or 33 before dropping it until basically a few months ago when I got around to checking it out. I ended up enjoying it a lot more than I originally thought I would, it just takes a bit to get enough abilities to make it interesting. A nice thing about MCH is you have the core rotation around lv38 and it doesn't change too much as you go, just more oGCDs to squeeze in to Wildfire windows and a few other abilities for managing heat gauge post 60.
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  8. #28
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    Minerva Prime
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    Diabolos
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    Paladin Lv 66
    Both suck late game (Starting around 50 and on) at DPS. Not meta talk, just purely on a "fun"/fight standpoint...they both feel very weak, unless you're geared out the wazoo. I made a Summoner my first go, and I found myself just clearing waves without much Ironworks and or other bought gear. Which makes sense of course, its the Warlock of FF, but even the Black Mage feels like a howitzer compared to....well two actual howitzer classes in the game.

    Bard feels like it requires a pet and or a solid aura buff. And Machinist feels like it needs a stronger pet in general. I love the idea of the Machinist, I just hate the implementation, especially late game. With all that considered...go Bard, not only will you be buffing your teammates, but also debuffing the enemy. Also who doesn't like a nice tune while slaughtering your enemies?
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  9. #29
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    Rawon Special
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    BRD is more in demand for party if you going for endgame stuff. for casual, either class is fine. i say BRD for easier play style because personally i found MCH right now is still "janky" but, BRD playstyle is very busy at least for me, while MCH is much more lenient compare to BRD.

    and i still hate the MCH shoot animation and sound when the heat is above 50 ugh
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  10. #30
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    Orlane Armilly
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SavageCipher View Post
    Both suck late game (Starting around 50 and on) at DPS. Not meta talk, just purely on a "fun"/fight standpoint...they both feel very weak, unless you're geared out the wazoo. I made a Summoner my first go, and I found myself just clearing waves without much Ironworks and or other bought gear. Which makes sense of course, its the Warlock of FF, but even the Black Mage feels like a howitzer compared to....well two actual howitzer classes in the game.

    Bard feels like it requires a pet and or a solid aura buff. And Machinist feels like it needs a stronger pet in general. I love the idea of the Machinist, I just hate the implementation, especially late game. With all that considered...go Bard, not only will you be buffing your teammates, but also debuffing the enemy. Also who doesn't like a nice tune while slaughtering your enemies?
    Hum, MCH is just the 3rd dps now. And BRD is not so low on dps...
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    "Là où il n'y a pas d'imagination, il n'y a pas d'horreur." Sherlock Holmes, Une étude en rouge, Conan Doyle

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