Bard or Machinist?

[george357]

i main both mch and brd the first brd is easy to get a rotation going and use party buffs and dots on targeted boss and the abiltie to avoiding traps is good over all i like this job as for mch the turret is a big help rotation is decent and dots and cross over skills help a lot to help keep up with the party over all a decent job to party with the higher i get in level the better the gear and weapons are for my jobs so yes try out each job and find what you liketo stay with.

[Azerhan]

Also don't forget: to be a good MCH is rewarding. You have a good dps, good utilities, and if you can play your job well, it's fun (I find the job fun when my ping is good for exemple x) )

[Dualgunner]

Personally, I prefer MCH to BRD. That said, neither character has BRD to 70 while both have MCH at 70 so I'm biased. There's some comfort in not having your damage tied so intricately to RNG (don't get me wrong, MCH has RNG but it's not nearly so bad as "needs crits to get its real damage out" bad, and can be heavily mitigated). That said, the terrible thing about both is how gimped they are sans DRG.

[Azerhan]

Personally, I prefer MCH to BRD. That said, neither character has BRD to 70 while both have MCH at 70 so I'm biased. There's some comfort in not having your damage tied so intricately to RNG (don't get me wrong, MCH has RNG but it's not nearly so bad as "needs crits to get its real damage out" bad, and can be heavily mitigated). That said, the terrible thing about both is how gimped they are sans DRG.

The RNG in MCH is more tick server or latency Or clipping, and I know from people of my FC that if they don't play MCH, it's mostly because of that.
I don't understand why SE don't throw the DRG's buff for MCH and BRD, is just horrible to know how many you lose without a DRG.

[Dualgunner]

The RNG in MCH is more tick server or latency Or clipping, and I know from people of my FC that if they don't play MCH, it's mostly because of that.
I don't understand why SE don't throw the DRG's buff for MCH and BRD, is just horrible to know how many you lose without a DRG.

Being so dependent on the server's performance and my connection to it does suck, yeah xwx There are high-latency rotations for the job, but end of the day you still need to fit a good number of attacks into a 10 second window that makes or breaks you for that minute lol.

Also being a DRGless MCH in my group makes me frequently cry.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Yeah, I feel you on the no DRG thing.

While I never particularly cared about my parses in my static, I care even less knowing that it's naturally going to be lower than it could be due to lack of a DRG. Besides, most times I readily prioritize the party over my own numbers as need be.

[PuppytimusLeoroccanz]

Agree with most of what had been discussed in the thread in regards to MCH. I personally prefer MCH because of the aesthetics and in terms of gameplay I have fewer things to manage compared to BRD.

The biggest issue and pain is when you get latency issues/spikes during wildfire. It is a severe punishment besides the occasional clipping as mentioned by others. And I'm also one of the mch that struggles to recover once I die once.

[Capn_Goggles]

MCH is a terribly designed job in my opinion, whereas Bard's toolkit actually feels like it makes sense. BRD can be a bit overwhelming because you have a LOT of things to keep track of at once, but it's not severely punishing if you mess up, there's always something going on and something to keep track of without feeling like you're being pigeonholed. MCH has a toolkit that revolves entirely around doing nothing until you hit your burst window and everything goes to hell, its DPS can be pretty significantly influenced by factors beyond your control like server latency, and honestly just feels like a total mess to play.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

MCH has a toolkit that revolves entirely around doing nothing until you hit your burst window

Nothing: Prepping for your burst by building heat while DPSing, then at the threshold, properly using your tools to set up procs in order to give yourself the best arrangement for a strong burst.

[Gr1mwolf]

Nothing: Prepping for your burst by building heat while DPSing, then at the threshold, properly using your tools to set up procs in order to give yourself the best arrangement for a strong burst.

Heat builds automatically while using 123, and "prepping procs" is technically part of the once-per-minute Wildfire rotation, which involves using like 2-3 abilities before blowing cooldowns.
Your opinion that MCH is fine is definitely a minority one, and I don't think you're helping anyone by saying they'll enjoy playing it.