Samurai and Red Mage

[Ryaz]

Sam could definitely use some buffs.

The other problem is that many just don't use half the kit. The amount of times I see them just standing there waiting. In Susan for example when he disappear for the big sword drop you got like 15 or 20 seconds before that comes down plenty of time to meditate 50 extra kenki. And usually depending on how quick they're smashed you can meditate again soon as the second one is smashed...

I'd keep any buffs on the ogcd side though definitely. Help those who make better use of hagakure and the like really stand out ahead of those that dont

Agreed. I use meditate every chance I get. I love nothing more than having a group on Rofacale that kills its Archdemon quickly. I can get a full Meditate charge in while he's just running around the board. I would even squeeze it in on D4 when Exdeath would leave the arena to summon the zombie tree. Even if it's just 15 Kenki, it's something. Hardly ever see anyone else use it, though. I'm actually trying to train myself to use Yaten more to avoid AoEs and use the enhanced Enpi to minimize down time.

As for RDM, I feel they dropped the ball with Impact. It should have been more than just a small Jolt buff.

[WilhelmWhite]

Agreed. I use meditate every chance I get. I love nothing more than having a group on Rofacale that kills its Archdemon quickly. I can get a full Meditate charge in while he's just running around the board. I would even squeeze it in on D4 when Exdeath would leave the arena to summon the zombie tree. Even if it's just 15 Kenki, it's something. Hardly ever see anyone else use it, though. I'm actually trying to train myself to use Yaten more to avoid AoEs and use the enhanced Enpi to minimize down time.

As for RDM, I feel they dropped the ball with Impact. It should have been more than just a small Jolt buff.

I'm never confident enough to use Meditate, and I pretty much never use it in dungeons. I honestly feel like I struggle as SAM to average the same damage as other DPS roles, and it seems like Meditate detracts from my up time too much. The only time I really do use it is during trials when there are situational mechanics that allow me to meditate during party-wide DPS down time. I too am also trying to train myself to use Yaten more for AOE dodging. Even though I've gotten my SAM to 70, I still feel as if I have quite a bit to learn.