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  1. #71
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    Sunoske's Avatar
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    Serge Blackstone
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    Mateus
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    They do not need to please you with their house. At all. Seriously, if mutliple people would make comments about how they didnt liked what I did with my house/my garden I would turn it into the worst thing possible right away, just to piss them off.

    They're not investing in the house to please you - or anyone else in the ward. You dont need to like that, but you do need to respect that its their house and their choice... publicly calling it an "eyesore" isnt really respecting that.
    I don't expect them to please me, I expect them to even log in to use the house. The fc im speaking of is 0/3 AT ALL TIMES, not the person who posted defending their fc of 23+ people.. If they log in it's to stop demolition and that's it, and tbh if you buy a house just for that people are going to be upset. That's just wrong and selfish if you don't play, and if you think that is acceptable then obviously you're part of why the housing is an issue.

    I'm sorry if it seems like I'm attacking you, but I feel as though you misunderstood what I was referring to and simply attacked me assuming I just wanted decorations in their yard.
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    Last edited by Sunoske; 02-22-2018 at 02:04 AM.
    "All hail our lord and savior, Lord Suno!" -Maharl Cross

  2. #72
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    MizArai's Avatar
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    Yui Savage
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by PureSteel View Post
    Your missing the mark. This isn't about yard decorations
    Quote Originally Posted by PureSteel View Post
    So we finally got neighbors across the street from us. We were pretty excited! Day after day we waited for them to appear. We still have yet to meet our neighbors. Their house sits empty and locked with no effort put into it. I just think, well someone who really wanted a house would've decorated that yard and maybe i could've waved or had a conversation with them. But alas, I think this house was bought by house flippers, or people that don't appreciate having one.
    You can't have it both ways. Either it's about yard decorations like you said in your original post or it's not. The reason people keep coming back to it is because you said it.

    edit: As other people have said, just because a house wasn't decorated yet doesn't mean the person doesn't "appreciate having one".
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  3. #73
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    Sunoske's Avatar
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    Serge Blackstone
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by MizArai View Post
    You can't have it both ways. Either it's about yard decorations like you said in your original post or it's not. The reason people keep coming back to it is because you said it.
    Had you paid attention to the conversation before hand that was not about the people she was speaking about in the original post.. That had to do with a conversation between me and Vidu.
    And yes you can have it both ways, a lot of the time people like my neighbors will have nothing set up and 0/3 online, yard decor is an easy way to see if its a legit fc or a fake one trying to sell it to someone looking for a better plot than the one they have.
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    "All hail our lord and savior, Lord Suno!" -Maharl Cross

  4. #74
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    Yui Savage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunoske View Post
    Had you paid attention to the conversation before hand that was not about the people she was speaking about in the original post.. That had to do with a conversation between me and Vidu.
    And yes you can have it both ways, a lot of the time people like my neighbors will have nothing set up and 0/3 online, yard decor is an easy way to see if its a legit fc or a fake one trying to sell it to someone looking for a better plot than the one they have.
    I've read the entire thread. Probably a couple times by now. OP claims stuff was in good fun, which it might have been until she posted names and such (which she later deleted after lots of backlash and finding out how wrong she was).

    The problem is in her original post she basically says that since she hasn't seen her neighbors and they haven't decorated the yard they must either be "house flippers, or people that don't appreciate having one". Then she gets mad when people come back and talk about how she complained about the yard not being decorated. So yeah, I read it. And I stand by what I said. OP can't have it both ways. If you're saying it's about yard decorations in the original post, then it's about yard decorations. The thread doesn't magically change just because it doesn't fit your agenda anymore and you don't like being called out for being a not nice person.

    As far as the 0/3 online FCs are concerned, it takes like 5-10 minutes to deal with airships. Are you really sitting there checking their FC status all day, every day to know that none of those people come online, ever, at all? Just because people don't play this game the way you want them to does not mean they're breaking rules or abusing the system. It could just mean they're following the advice of other people about starting their own FC to gain access to airship/ sub stuff. Get mad at SE for locking the stuff to FC only, not people who don't feel like decorating a house since they only want it to access content that can't be done anywhere else.
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    Last edited by MizArai; 02-22-2018 at 02:39 AM. Reason: text limit is killing me

  5. #75
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    Sunoske's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MizArai View Post
    Get mad at SE for locking the stuff to FC only, not people who don't feel like decorating a house since they only want it to access content that can't be done anywhere else.
    Why are you automatically assuming they're doing so for the fc content? This is what's confusing me... The location and size of the plot (since you get the same amount of airships) indicate more of a trying to resell the plot to someone looking to relocate, as it is one of the more sought after plots in the area. If I'm wrong I'm more than happy to apologize but until proven otherwise from what I and many others have seen this isn't an actual fc. This is happening alot on balmung atm seeing as people were shouting to get people to make fcs just to resell before they were released. I understand they aren't breaking rules, however unlike most of the player base I just cant morally pull the "It's not against the rules so its okay." card. And deff wont stand up for anyone without that person stating themselves what the plot is for.
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    "All hail our lord and savior, Lord Suno!" -Maharl Cross

  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunoske View Post
    I personally however don't really see how difficult it is/would be to take 2 minutes to simple move them so its not a stacked eyesore, that looks almost fishy. Especially after multiple people making comments about it.
    I personally do not see why they should do something they do not feel like doing simply because it is an eyesore to you or others. As I mentioned before I do not see the difference between some complaining about an empty plot verse those that complain about the house glamours. Expect one is attacked and the other is defended as choice. Where do people draw the line between the two.

    So why is a players right to use a house glamour defended by players due to choice, but having a bare or littered yard not? Where does one draw the line, all the plots that my FC and I own are simply tools nothing more nothing less. Everyone plays this game for different reasons, instead of getting upset with players take it up with the developers and let your concerns be known.

    Though at the core this thread has very little do with use but more so the lack of use. I get that but the thing is no where does it state a player has to actively use the house. For the longest time before being part of the FC I am currently in I owned a personal house and a private FC house and did nothing with them, it was not until I found out how much fun crafting could be that I started to explore the use of houses. Prior to that they were never used outside of changing the color of my bird or messing around with the striking dummy. I do not get it though if a player meets the requirements set by SE to purchase and maintain a plot what right does any player have to say well you are not using it so you should lose it. Worse off what right does any player have to make the assumption that they are flipping the house due to lack of use. Even if the FC in question is planning on using it as a means to profit off of relocation. If it is within the rules set by SE if they met the requirements to purchase said plot, and if they meet the requirements to maintain said plot what leg does anyone really have to stand on for how they use it.

    SE housing system is not perfect, but from what I was told in the past the community was given a choice between instance and wards. The community picked wards so take the good with the bad.
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    Last edited by Awha; 02-22-2018 at 03:18 AM.

  7. #77
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    Ultimately, people bought it, it's theirs, they can do whatever they want (or don't want) with it. Regardless of the reasoning for why they don't "deserve" it, it belongs to them. If they wanna leave it 100% empty and untouched, that's still within their right and literally does not give anyone else more "right" to the lot because they'll "appreciate it more" or something. It's such a common thing for people to come up with x reason why they deserve the house more than the next guy, or why y person doesn't deserve their house at all.

    Also: OP was banned, it seems. She posted on reddit about it.
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  8. #78
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    Hmmm interesting
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  9. #79
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    Drazi Rae
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    Paladin Lv 70
    https://imgur.com/a/hJlTI

    You rushed us into decorating the house since you were getting mad at us So we gave it our best shot with what we had in storage!
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  10. #80
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    Sanura Tsukishiro
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drazi View Post
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...d37a2879ba.png

    You rushed us into decorating the house since you were getting mad at us So we gave it our best shot with what we had in storage!
    It looks wonderful!
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    A mentor stole my house, slapped me across the face, and raised my ping from 15 to 30. Literally unplayable.

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    I would advise against the “you pulled it you tank it” shtick. Try diplomacy first. “Please allow me to pull the mobs.” [...] While the deeps is wrong for pulling ahead, you certainly aren’t right by not doing your job.
    #GetSelliBack2016

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