PVP bots

[RiyahArp]

The point though is that people cheat based on it benefitting them. Frontlines bots happened because you had very quick pops and could get a lot of exp in a short time afk. That doesn't exist any more; 400k per half-hour isn't good exp by any means (its barely 2 fates), and by now people have leveled the jobs they want to play up to cap. So I'm finding it hard to believe there is this mass bot invasion in a frontlines that can barely pop 8 mans. You can get better exp just running POTD over, and in the same time even as DPS I can get a dungeon pop for 3x the exp or more.

[Akor]

The point though is that people cheat based on it benefitting them. Frontlines bots happened because you had very quick pops and could get a lot of exp in a short time afk. That doesn't exist any more; 400k per half-hour isn't good exp by any means (its barely 2 fates), and by now people have leveled the jobs they want to play up to cap. So I'm finding it hard to believe there is this mass bot invasion in a frontlines that can barely pop 8 mans. You can get better exp just running POTD over, and in the same time even as DPS I can get a dungeon pop for 3x the exp or more.

Bc its still gives you wolfs mark which you can turn in to gear and exchange them for gc seals.

[RiyahArp]

Bc its still gives you wolfs mark which you can turn in to gear and exchange them for gc seals.

You can get them faster through poetics and creation, since only the lvl 60 gear can be turned in. I thought about desynth too, but if you are good enough to get it high, you know there are better things than pvp to use it on.

Then tell me why this NIN] (and several of the others in this video) is still around?

Are they still botting? My guess is that botting went down quite a bit once they nerfed exp gain and queues died.

PvP is gradually dying as a result of various factors, including win traders and bots.

I have to wonder if it's an issue with funding. Perhaps Square Enix need to invest more money in hiring people to address reports? The game did, after all, grow far beyond what it expected to be after it relaunched as ARR. Do we know if the support team grew over time?

Win trading happened because the population of light party feast, and I'm guessing to an extent hi ranked normal feast, is too small to prevent it from occurring. Maybe its because of a tiny sub-population, that of healers, since healers are the easiest ones to throw a match with. Punishment is probably because they can't ban people specifically from Feast, and you can imagine the griefing potential if you could be banned based on pvp actions. Best thing would be for them to allow people to be banned from ranked mode.

[Zojha]

You can get them faster through poetics and creation, since only the lvl 60 gear can be turned in.

Botting isn't exactly about getting things "fast". It's about getting things while you're doing something else. And for that, the gains are still pretty good.

You have to think:"What else could I bot in that time?", rather than:"What else could I do in that time?". I'd imagine a lot of bots from PvP end up going gathering once they finished leveling.

[Akor]

You can get them faster through poetics and creation, since only the lvl 60 gear can be turned in. I thought about desynth too, but if you are good enough to get it high, you know there are better things than pvp to use it on.

1350 gc seal for 750 wolf mark. You get 1500 or 1250 if you loose vs 700 poetics. And you dont want to use your creation for buying gear for exchange it for gc seals. You'r right on desync though but i still use loots for desync vs wolf gear.

[Miayoko]

I'll be the first to admit I suck awful at PvP. But I do it because I enjoy it. I suck at targeting things. I suck at my DPS speed. I'm easy to kill I'll admit that I got no shame in that I'm a filthy casual.

But, when I get matches all day with the same player from Gilgamesh that does no damage, never leaves the pad, and never tries to do anything except change mounts that's a problem.

What's worse is people have grown so used to bots that when you TRY to remove them they just reject the motion. I have used GM services more in the past month then I have the years I've played this game.

I doubt they do anything about it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It's pretty thick in the mornings with solid bot parties. I've had plenty lately where maybe one player in the mornings is actually a person the rest of them stand there.