The WOL and Mass Murder

[BillyKaplan]

Can't go over the entire thread but this does remind me of the post Dragonsong war bits where the people blamed us for taking away their justification for losing their loved ones. So people being twisted by grief and trauma turning on us for doing things that are for the greater good, isn't so far fetched. To have that go all out and to have EVERYONE corrupted by it is a different story, however.

[Coratanni]

I'm sad that you feel that way. It is your opinion though. That seems pretty close-minded to me.

Close minded? No. It's called having almost 40 years of experience in gaming and story telling, and real life thrown in for good measures. Short of a massive world-wide tempering, what you are advocating cannot happen without completely breaking the consistency of the world we've gotten for almost 500 quests.

And i've done every single class quest, every single story quest, and about 90% of the sidequests in the game...

As has been stated so many times already. The people know us. We're considered prodigies in every guild, every City State leader and Government, and every Grand Company knows us, We're friends with factions in every single beast tribe practically, We're even friends with those in the neutral cities who dont pick sides. Every single outpost has been helped by us in every menial task you can imagine, and all Cid has to do, is tell everyone, that we're the original Warriors of Light from 5 years past, to make your scenario even less probable, than it already was.

[Alacran]

Many spoilers are referenced here, please skip if needed.

How about this then? If this is a genuine fear, don't play the game. By doing so you knowingly decide that the pacifist path is not for you to take. In order to gain the upper echelons of power one must struggle, fight, and be willing to die. The argument of who do we answer to has already been broached and not just once but multiple times. you need only actually look and read the text of the story you are playing.

Long before Dark Knight we are faced with the mortality of those that follow the path of adventurer's, you need only look at story of your fellow adventure's during the first three dungeons. Then again we shown the price of failure and what the happens when we sit idly by with the tempering process Ifrit subjects people to. Few games ever show that, people ask why this is happening to them, why they must face this, at one point you are given the chance to run away... But you didn't you? You went back and killed that primal because you had to stop it's machinations, and the more time you put it off the more he would temper.This was all at level twenty five...

The work continues through the msq, we learn more of the machinations of not only the beastmen, the Empire and their super weapon, the plans to subjugate the entire on Erozea through military force with the help of Ascians no less, bringers of chaos and those who have for millennia untold have corrupted civilizations into primal summoning. The very act slowly killing the planet.

We are spurned on finding that many of our allies are murdered by the Empire. After which we personally bury the bodies of our fallen compatriots, individually, one by one we carry their bodies to proper burial. All the while we grid ourselves to free our friends from capture by the Empire, even over hear what the soldiers at the castrum have in store for female companions... only after rescuing them do we find out who it was who betrayed us. One of our own is possessed and forced to betray his friends and allies through other worldly means (a burden he carries to eve this day). Still we fight on, through insurmountable odds all the while trying to save as many as possible even allowing ourselves being the last ones out of a destroyed hellfire of a building on the back of a breaking magitek reaper while saving our mentally tortured friend no less.

Oh yeah as a 1.0 player it is revealed that w did this all while under a memory fog that keeps previous allies and friends from remember us. We protected the world from Galemald and attempted to stop the Primal Bahumut, failed and the were wiped from the memory of nearly every person we saved. And then we did it again, with no expectation of reward for past accomplishments. Only afterward the mother crystal lifting the veil from their memory to recall the individual who with all their power struggled to keep all of Erozea safe twice over content to be forgotten. That concludes A Realm Reborn msq.

Many things were left out of that. Many people just buy the story line skip potion and never see it. We have under gone many, many other trials since then. There is a reason why i and so many challenge this train of thought. It falls flat, makes no sense and is a false, unneeded edge to our character. You are playing the game, full knowing what you as the character is, and what it is you are doing and why you do it. Whats being asked for, the question of what if people saw you in a negative light has already been addressed. If you skipped it that's no fault of the content writers.

[Krotoan]

Close minded? No. It's called having almost 40 years of experience in gaming and story telling, and real life thrown in for good measures. Short of a massive world-wide tempering, what you are advocating cannot happen without completely breaking the consistency of the world we've gotten for almost 500 quests...

And you think we've met everyone and anyone who's worth meeting on the entire continent and nothing goes on we are not privy to? Alright.
You can wave your gametime and "experience" around all you like, but saying that something cannot be done because you haven't seen the possibility isn't very open minded.
I'm not here to argue or compare who's is bigger. I have no idea who you are, whether you're lying or not or how you like to enjoy a story. I'm not here to pick fights.

I think the idea is worth developing, and if you don't , you really don't have to read anymore. I'm certainly not on the writing team.

Many things were left out of that. Many people just buy the story line skip potion and never see it. We have under gone many, many other trials since then. There is a reason why i and so many challenge this train of thought. It falls flat, makes no sense and is a false, unneeded edge to our character. You are playing the game, full knowing what you as the character is, and what it is you are doing and why you do it. What those asking are asking for, the question of what if people saw you in a negative light has already been addressed. If you skipped it that's no fault of the content writers.

Just because we're exploring other possibilities doesn't mean we're discrediting anything that has been done. It's an open book to which the end will likely never be written.

Who said I skipped anything. I've been there since 1.0 and continue to enjoy the story as it unfolds.

It's a little distressing that people have such strong reactions to someone exploring storylines.

Just because you've explored one aspect of a story doesn't mean that can never come into play again.
I don't get why creative meandering needs to be "challenged". Stop reading it if it bothers you.

[Coratanni]

And you think we've met everyone and anyone who's worth meeting on the entire continent and nothing goes on we are not privy to? Alright.
You can wave your gametime and "experience" around all you like, but saying that something cannot be done because you haven't seen the possibility isn't very open minded.
I'm not here to argue or compare who's is bigger. I have no idea who you are, whether you're lying or not or how you like to enjoy a story. I'm not here to pick fights.

I think the idea is worth developing, and if you don't , you really don't have to read anymore. I'm certainly not on the writing team.

Are you one of those story jump potion users?

[Krotoan]

Are you one of those story jump potion users?

Nope. Are you?

[Coratanni]

Nope. Are you?

I went through ARR and HW with 5 different characters, finished SB with 2, and am halfway through SB with 2 others. The only time I skipped scenes was on the 5th character.

[Krotoan]

I went through ARR and HW with 5 different characters, finished SB with 2, and am halfway through SB with 2 others. The only time I skipped scenes was on the 5th character.

Wonderful, you enjoy this game a lot it seems! I wonder why you feel the need to quash someone elses fanciful storyline though?

[Coratanni]

Wonderful, you enjoy this game a lot it seems! I wonder why you feel the need to quash someone elses fanciful storyline though?

Because the amount of a$$pull required to do that is monumentous.

It would be easier for your situation, if the WoL was sent to on of the other worlds, where the story didnt go as what we've gone through. Where the WoL didnt touch so many lives, across so many countries. Or an alternate Universe. A mirror universe(taking this from Star Trek) if you will.

[Krotoan]

It would be easier for your situation,if the WoL was sent to on of the other worlds, where the story didnt go as what we've gone through. Where the WoL didnt touch so many lives, across so many countries. Or an alternate Universe. A mirror universe(taking this from Star Trek) if you will.

It'd certainly be easier to write , that's true. What you call ... er.. reaching.. . is what I'd call a challenge or a puzzle to figure out. I feel fighting some new strangers wouldn't be nearly as deep a story as having people we know and trust having to fight us. Especially if they aren't being controlled or magically influenced. If the decision was purely of conflicting interests and manipulation it'd be very intriguing. Which is what I was exploring. Of course I won't say my way is the right way, or infallible or it'll even be read or pondered by more than myself. It hurts nobody to imagine and is easily avoided by anyone who doesn't want to hear it. Agreed?