


Yuck, I'm sorry you wound up with a group like that. It sucks that some people can be like that. Fortunately there are plenty of other players out there who are patient and understanding with new players, and will sometimes even offer to answer questions and give advice if you want it. While I can't say you won't run into other troublesome players in the future, most of the time as long as you let everyone know from the beginning that you're new to content they won't get on your case about it. At any rate, I hope things get better for you and you can continue to enjoy the game!




As a day to day tank, I would've laughed and then said " you better kick me right now cuz I'm definitely gonna bungle something up."So just to share my little story.
Que up for a random DF as a Pally, before anything has even started the two DPS start talking about how crap their last tank was and then without me even doing anything other than saying, "Hi!! I'm new and I'll do my best!" start talking about how I will probably be just as bad and that the first mistake I make they will kick me. So at that point I have no desire to continue the dungeon with these types of people and simply ask to be kicked. To which I am greeted with slap emotes and, "Whats wrong with you!" etc..
I can't understand the logic where I am suppose to prove myself to a random person who I will probably never see again who has already assumed I suck and has started the whole run with a bad taste.
Then I would've /sit and Netflix
Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.


I have a request for anyone on my data centre.
Over the last few days, my FC group has been a few bodies short for Byakko so we've been using the PF. In an attempt to be a bit more lighthearted and friendly, I often put the comment "That one party that says it's a farm and probably won't be."
Please stop making the damn thing a self fulfilling prophecy and blaming my group for when you keep dying to Sweep the Leg and Fire and Lightning.
You're good at the game? You're an elitist.
You're using a parser to better yourself? Elitist.
You're making suggestions on how someone can improve themselves? E l i t i s t.
You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.
This community astounds me at times.
I've been leveling a WAR alt on Adamantoise, and have a couple of stories:
#1, Brayflox Longstop: Reasonably smooth run. I kinda wanted the extra chests (new toon, so not a lot of gil to spend on gear), but the SCH I got for a Healer made it abundantly clear through actions (running ahead, once even pulling for me) that s/he didn't. Made it through without a wipe, but I really wasn't impressed with how impatient the SCH was.
#2, Stone Vigil: Went pretty well, had a few miscues on early pulls (it's been a good while since I last ran SV), but no wipes through the second boss. Then between the second and third bosses, I messed up a bit on the first set of ice sprites resulting in our dps/heals getting a few blizzards in their faces before I got control...and finally the hum-dinger: I do the second to last pull, which started with one set of sprites and 1 or 2 aevis - not bad in itself, but then I notice what looks like another aevis patting up, so I pop him with tomahawk to prevent trouble...turns out he was part of the final pull of 3 Aevis. Oops - wipe. Group was cool about it, tho.
Oh, almost forgot one: Haukke Manor. We load in, I go for the first pull...and the healer bails. After waiting a minute, I ask if we want to try to keep going (there's a RDM in the group, and at the time I didn't realize that vercure is only available at a very high level), so we do. We wiped on the next pull, but were ahead in the kill count, and got a healer to finish with. Good run after that, tho I didn't do so hot on Lady A's adds (finally got 'em on me and we burned her down afterward). Really wish people would bring adds to the tank when they spawn, tho - makes things so much easier.
Other than that, pretty much every group has been anywhere from good to fantastic, tho I did have one person fall off on Titan Normal...not to landslide, but to standing in the red zone when he jumped.
--Erim Nelhah
Last edited by Erim-Nelhah; 02-16-2018 at 08:27 AM.


Do you talk to your groups? Reading you here, it sounds like every time someone doesnt play the way you want them to you shirk them and let them die. If youre talking to your groups about what not to do, then this is probly fine(aggressively douchey, but fine). But if im in a group and no one is talking and i just suddenly get hate(which is rare since i use my enmity tools, but it still happens from time to time), i assume that the tank sucks not that i made some mistake i need to learn from. If your solution to every "problem" you see in a DF group is to shirk and laugh, please unplug your internet connection and stick to single player games. Or better yet, move out into the woods somewhere and live off the land so that you never have to deal with other people who may not be perfect like you again.
I mean they can shield you inbetween pulls, Regen while getting mobs yeah is annoying but Shirking them just makes you look like an entitled baby no offense "wahhh Shirk everyone who pulls threat even for a split second" even though it'll literally take 1 AoE threat move or you can cover them and you'll take all the damage but hey, guess they gotta die. Maybe you should use your tools instead of using them to kill others over pettiness.
Bugger... Shit like this is precisely why, when I make a pf, I manually eliminate the jobless classes. It's bad enough that I've seen this sort of thing in DF, almost always in a 24-man that's still partially relevant. Just... argh

Been working a bit on a WHM alt over on Coeurl and got to Doma Castle a few days ago.
Loaded in, cast buffs, and I already figured it was gonna be a typical Doma run (big pulls and so on). I immediately noticed that the tank didn't put a stance on, but I didn't say anything as I figured they would notice. First pull, I burn every heal I had, and get a "great healing!" from the tank. Still no stance, so with that compliment, I began thinking they were just doing a challenge of sorts.
Second major pull before the first boss, they realized they had forgotten their stance. Thankfully there had been no deaths during either of those pulls and they surprisingly kept aggro despite it all. Overall, it turned out to be a fun run, especially after the disasters I've had to deal with in the past.
And with every good story, also comes a slightly bad one too.
Then got to Castrum Abania yesterday, and things went decently well until second boss. I'm not sure if one of the other DPS were new as well, but every time the second boss did his "Cup Runneth Over" move, they never went into the element spots and constantly died. And at one point, I had no MP from raising them, trying to keep the tank alive, and having every MP regain skill on CD (having to even resort to using Thin Air just to get the other DPS up at one point and have a few seconds of natural regen). I have never liked Abania in general, but I definitely now appreciate all the healers that have to deal with that dungeon. Especially when it suddenly gets really messy.
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