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  1. #21
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    Bobs's Avatar
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    Dr Ray
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
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    Well it might show you where SE's priorities are. Omega Savage is completely obsolete now. Deltascape Savage will be too after a time. A mount or minion will never become obsolete.
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  2. #22
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    Nora_of_Mira's Avatar
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    Nora Origo
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    The fact that making a dress requires maps to do RNG doors to get RNG maps to do RNG doors to get RNG loot is really stupid. There's no getting around that. The whole system with Canals is awful and just designed to be as annoying as possible.
    I really don't like the maps either. but as a disclosure, I don't gather or craft, so I dont come across maps or have the money to buy them. My only experience with them is when I'm offered to back-fill parties needing a DPS and then im subject to "need only on your maps" which to me is saying "i will get nothing for my work". So I don't even bother joining.
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  3. #23
    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Maximum Powerful
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    Hyperion
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    waahhhhhhhhh. i can't get everything i want easily. wahhhhhhhhhhhh
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  4. #24
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    Aria Fairchild
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    Brynhildr
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    https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Invisible_Boots

    An example from GW2. To wear a barefoot "armor", you need to cough out that much gold. To put in perspective, 2500 gold can buy you a one-handed legendary weapon in that game - the best kind possible.

    In short, devs' way of giving people things to do to keep them amused (probably).
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  5. #25
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    SleepyMoony's Avatar
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    Akiki Shiki
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    Brynhildr
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    it's almost like.... they want you to play longer.... so you'll give them more money.............. weird..........
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  6. #26
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    Blair Ipswich
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 71
    Glamor IS the end game. Weather its minions or armor or a frilly dress they all require some kind of effort. What I think you want RiyahArp is things to be handed to you without going through the effort. Keep in mind most not all but most dungeon minions can be bought from the MB but even getting gil for them takes some kind of effort the mounts take totems or rather will take totems but those too take effort the fact is you NEED to put in effort to get the stuff you want. For example I want a flying chair mount I cant craft it but I have friends who can or I can buy it off the MB (I also want a small Lav Beds house but thats a different kind of effort). I cant just be like “Hey you give me a flying chair because I want one.” I need to offer something either the mats or gil.

    TL;RD: You wont be handed things just because you dont want to put in the effort.
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  7. #27
    Player RiyahArp's Avatar
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    I put in plenty of effort. I am just starting to wonder why its easier and takes less time to get high end endgame gear than relatively useless stuff. I can literally buy a house for cheaper than a minion. I spent a grand total of 300k or less and maybe one hour getting 4 levels in a craft because levequests are so dirt cheap, and can max a combat class in a week or so, but the optional stuff is just weird in how much time it takes. I have plenty of things already that take a lot of time to get. The only thing that seemed ok with effort and time balance were the relics when current; they took decent effort, but it wasn't absurd effort, and they directly added to power.
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  8. #28
    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    people will pay absurd amounts of gil for various things. what else is new? i pity the person that spent 20 mil on a mameshiba when it first came out. they are so much more cheaper now. must new shiny must have!
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  9. #29
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    Tenebria Miku
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    things that can be traded will always be more difficult to obtain in an mmo just because of that.
    It's meant to fuel the economy

    people that do maps make money from money and random drops along with some rare drops
    people that gather make money selling the gathered items
    people that garden make money selling rare crossbreeds
    people that do deep dungeon make money selling gold coffer loot
    people that craft make money selling their creations
    people that do the hunt make money selling materia
    etc etc

    you make it out like in order to get something you have to manually do every step of it.
    You just have to do something and trade for the stuff you need for your goal
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  10. #30
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    Kacho Nacho
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaldeaSahaline View Post
    You know - hospital surgery waiting room thoughts
    Oh no! I hope every turned out alright.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    waahhhhhhhhh. i can't get everything i want easily. wahhhhhhhhhhhh
    We all appreciate your well thought out contribution to this thread.

    Well, it might show you where SE's priorities are. Omega Savage is completely obsolete now. Deltascape Savage will be too after a time. A mount or minion will never become obsolete.
    I feel this is the correct answer. As Koko wrote, glamour is the end game. Many of those "simple" pieces are worn like Olympic medals.
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    Last edited by Kacho_Nacho; 02-14-2018 at 09:45 AM.

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