SE Needs to Auto-disband FCs

[MuseTraveller]

Some people make FCs for extra storage, to exchange items with alts or cause they want access to workshops but don't want to get tied to an actual FC and all the baggage or drama it can bring, why is this a bad thing again?

[Hasrat]

What I want to know is what's the proposed system to deal with the hypothetical FC house owned by an FC that would get auto-disbanded.

[Dualblade]

What I want to know is what's the proposed system to deal with the hypothetical FC house owned by an FC that would get auto-disbanded.

Well if they already have a system for an FC with no active members and thus no leader, I assume it would work like that? If they have such anyways, not something I've ever thought about.

[Almagnus1]

More importantly, all of Hyomin's posts were discussing the topic.

Or more accurately, it's a bunch of questions and feelings. I answered the questions and ignored the feelings, what more do you want?

Some people make FCs for extra storage, to exchange items with alts or cause they want access to workshops but don't want to get tied to an actual FC and all the baggage or drama it can bring, why is this a bad thing again?

There really needs to be a small chest in a houses for that exact same reason, and also workshop access tied to either Garlond Ironworks or the machinists in Ishgard.

I can get the social aspect... but that also seems counter to how FFXIV works because you must group up to progress through the MSQ.

Well if they already have a system for an FC with no active members and thus no leader, I assume it would work like that? If they have such anyways, not something I've ever thought about.

Exactly, there's already code in place to handle a house released from an FC that's gone AFK, this would be about the same.

[Dualgunner]

So why should they be allowed to drop below 4 players in the first place?

Both pieces of information indicate that the minimum FC size should be 4.

This is not a response to my concern. People who want to solo but have an FC, will solo and have an FC. They will gladly field an FC with alts to stay at that minimum requirement of four people. Enforcing any sort of "not allowed to drop below four or auto disband" is a ludicrous waste of developer resources.

Nobody gains from your suggestion. People only lose.

Again, it seems like SE thinks the minimum size for an FC should be 4. Is it really a good thing to have an FC drop below four players?

Is it really a bad thing? Who is harmed? Answer that.

Actually the OP is right...your derailing the thread and resorting to personal attacks...I suggest you stop before I report you myself.\

Funny, forum policing isn't especially on-topic either. Threatening other members with a report sounds pretty reportable.

[MistakeNot]

IMO, this is a necessary feature for FCs that should have always been there.

Necessary? In what way would it be necessary?

Considering that the game has existed for several years without that "feature" and that complaints about its non-existence has been few and far between, I'd say that there is overwhelming evidence that it is in fact not necessary at all.

It is debatable if it is even a desirable feature, since the only positive impact it would have is to make it harder to set up and maintain dummy FCs that own houses. This is easy enough to get around however, which coupled with the obvious negative impact such a feature would have means that it is IMO not a desirable feature.

[HyoMinPark]

Would it kill you to stay on topic and not resort to personal attacks?

Personal attacks? Please quote where I have personally attacked you. Disagreeing with your proposal is not a personal attack. Neither is asking for you to provide solid reasoning for it.

I am asking you why this system should be implemented. If you were to present this to the developers as an idea, you need to provide a "why" to it; since you're presenting it on a discussion forum, I'm allowed to ask why it's a good idea. So far, all you have said is "IMO it's a good idea and should have been implemented from the beginning". Why, though? So why should it be implemented? What harm does 2- to 3- man FCs do to the playerbase that would require the developers to enforce a 4-person minimum rule that has to be consistently maintained?

Or more accurately, it's a bunch of questions and feelings. I answered the questions and ignored the feelings, what more do you want?

Any questions you answered were answered with another question. Which isn't an answer. You've never answered my question as to why is this a necessary feature. Especially since you've acknowledged it can just be circumvented anyways. Which would make it a needless and useless rule.

[Dualgunner]

Would it kill you to stay on topic and not resort to personal attacks?

To be quite blunt, I'm getting really tired of dealing with that drama queen and her herd of drama llamas. They really need to ride on back to the Andes.

I'm getting really tired of dealing with that drama queen and her herd of drama llamas.

tired of dealing with that drama queen

drama queen

[Almagnus1]

This is easy enough to get around however, which coupled with the obvious negative impact such a feature would have means that it is IMO not a desirable feature.

Please quanitify the "obvious negative impact" with actual data, because from what I'm seeing, it's a boogeyman that doesn't exist.

[Elamys]

Please quanitify the "obvious negative impact" with actual data, because from what I'm seeing, it's a boogeyman that doesn't exist.

I make an FC with my three friends because we want to just be alone and not with other people. We get to max rank and build up a good amount of items in the FC chest, enjoy our perks, get a lot of credits for items. We don't care about getting a house.

One friend stops playing.

The FC is now gone automatically.

What negative impact did the FC existing have before? Drama with Hyomin aside, this is one question you've yet to answer.