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  1. #21
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    Ugh.. just get rid of tanking all together, and make it all DPS, for crying out loud.
    This would fix what? Have you ever been part of a group where a tank tunnel visions into DPS mode? Have you done it yourself? Careful with your statements because you're not only dismissing DRK, you're dismissing tanking all together, including PLD and WAR.

    There is nothing wrong with the concept of tanks and healers contributing to damage so long as their primary duties are covered. The thing is though, while their primary duties are typically easy to accomplish, they are also vastly important so the true DDs can do their job. Especially in content where players are pushed. The holy trinity isn't going away anytime soon, so I would think long and hard if you can find enjoyment in this game with the way things are set up now.
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  2. #22
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    sarehptar's Avatar
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    Yehn'zi Panipahr
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    Ugh.. just get rid of tanking all together, and make it all DPS, for crying out loud.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    This would fix what? Have you ever been part of a group where a tank tunnel visions into DPS mode? Have you done it yourself? Careful with your statements because you're not only dismissing DRK, you're dismissing tanking all together, including PLD and WAR.
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  3. #23
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    Kazrah's Avatar
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    Nonni Brilante
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    Moogle
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Have you ever been part of a group where a tank tunnel visions into DPS mode? Have you done it yourself?
    Yes to both, I think because WAR has that effect. Honestly can't remember the last time I ever saw a Warrior actually in Defiance now that I think of it (even me when I occasionally tank on my Warrior).
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  4. #24
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    Awful's Avatar
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    Awful Name
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I mean War is pretty much a god why would I wanna go back to Drk which has been a let down since SBs launch where they lost pretty much everything that made them fun in HW? I'm gonna continue to let out my war cries as I chainsaw my way to victory as I high five my Pld OT with Shirk while we style allover bosses.

    How it feels:

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  5. #25
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    Nedkel's Avatar
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Zodiark
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    Samurai Lv 74
    Making him a DPS would require much more workforce than making him equal to two other tanks.

    So no.

    We need a tank with two handed sword, there is already a samurai on the DPS side with two handed.
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  6. #26
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    Meh, tank classes are a crutch hell so are healers. Know what just make encounters have all dodge able mechanics and make every class a pure DPS. Lol then everyone will have the same queue times! PROGRESS! Honestly truth of the matter DRK might be more viable as a dps then tank.
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    Last edited by Awha; 02-11-2018 at 12:15 PM.

  7. #27
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    Kakiko's Avatar
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    Halo Kitty
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    Midgardsormr
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    I think we have enough DPS classes now, thankyouverymuch. Our DPS queue times do not need to be any long; my house can only get so clean.
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    Canadian, eh!
    "When someone told me I live in a fantasy land, I nearly fell off my unicorn"

  8. #28
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    DeaconMoore's Avatar
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    Deacon Moore
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    Mateus
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    Summoner Lv 79
    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    Making him a DPS would require much more workforce than making him equal to two other tanks.

    So no.

    We need a tank with two handed sword, there is already a samurai on the DPS side with two handed.
    Exactly, the solution is to rename Dark Knight to Samurai and Samurai to Dark Knight.
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  9. #29
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    Fredco191's Avatar
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    Magni Henriksson
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    Diabolos
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    Making him a DPS would require much more workforce than making him equal to two other tanks.

    So no.

    We need a tank with two handed sword, there is already a samurai on the DPS side with two handed.
    Him?





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  10. #30
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    Joe777's Avatar
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    Joe Ultima
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    Coeurl
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    Rogue Lv 70
    It would seem some people have forgotten why tanks exist in the first place. Tanks are there to keep the enemy off of allies so said allies can do their thing without worrying about surviving. DPS can go all-out and Healers can keep the Tanks alive to keep tanking. This trinity will never cease to exist in MMOs so you may as well accept the existance of Tanks. And to those who plan to reply to this statement with the "it's a joke" bit, what if it isn't? What if people really do want Tanks to just become DPS? Tanks need to deal damage to maintain aggro, not just to win, and some people may be forgetting that. Sure I hope I'm wrong and no one actually thinks that way, but still...

    That said Dark Knight is traditionally a DPS job, but only because of its tendancy to expend its own HP. If DRK did become a DPS this would end up applied. Do you really want a DPS job that expends its own HP and potentially dies often over it? Or simply makes Healers work more due to it? Furthermore, what would you all suggest be brought in to be a 3rd Tank? And I don't mean switch a DPS like Samurai with it because even in armor Samurai has traditionally been a DPS job too. Also both Paladin and Warrior have traditionally been Tank jobs so they are in the right spot. The trick here is finding jobs to add as Tanks, without using carbon copies (like Knight and how similar it is to Paladin).

    All this said, you best believe Dark Knight isn't going to the DPS side. It'd be far too much work to find a replacement for it, let alone convert it to a DPS job.


    P.S. For whatever reason it may matter for, Blue Mage and Dancer are the only truly seperate jobs from all available now. Everything else is more or less similar to what we have already. SE may need to invent brand new jobs to keep filling in roles...
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