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    Housing is Unfair

    Completely agree with OP. As a new player I've been waiting months to get a home, new wards open up and I find a spot I like. I figure that if a FC grabs the small plot hey, it is what ti is... but a individual transfers and takes it from me before they open it? Wtf is up with crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivias View Post
    Completely agree with OP. As a new player I've been waiting months to get a home, new wards open up and I find a spot I like. I figure that if a FC grabs the small plot hey, it is what ti is... but a individual transfers and takes it from me before they open it? Wtf is up with crap.
    Remember there are multiple wards and subdivisions. There is a chance that your dream plot is still available in one of them, so be sure to check before you write it off when personal purchases open up. Good luck with it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    Remember there are multiple wards and subdivisions. There is a chance that your dream plot is still available in one of them, so be sure to check before you write it off when personal purchases open up. Good luck with it!
    Doesn't change the fact it is inherently unfair to allow individuals to transfer before allowing first time home buyers the same equal chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivias View Post
    Doesn't change the fact it is inherently unfair to allow individuals to transfer before allowing first time home buyers the same equal chance.
    Not really. The point was to give FC a shot at getting a house. Players relocating does not decrease the overall number of houses available since their prior house becomes vacant. Allowing new individuals to grab houses would decrease the total number of houses available to FC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyanna_Elingval View Post
    Not really. The point was to give FC a shot at getting a house. Players relocating does not decrease the overall number of houses available since their prior house becomes vacant. Allowing new individuals to grab houses would decrease the total number of houses available to FC.
    You are completly missing out the point, we are aware of this, that fc should get priority blablabla, the main thing here that you do not seem to get is as its been mentionned several times while some ppl are homeless & will be happy with a small, a ton of us want a medium or a large (FOR PERSONAL USE) aka, sure its fair to fc to get dib on them first BUT for ppl already grandfathered to be able to solo relocalize to a medium or large when they had a (or several) house already while others that never owned one are restricted for a looong period isnt fair.Thats not correct & im not even mentionning fake fc there.

    P.s: stop giving the plenty of small houses excuse, depending on server, goodbye mediums or even more so goodbye larges, in less than 24h on leviathan all mediums plots got taken & by a bunch of solo players, i personally watched 6 get popped in my face.
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    Also, i am sick & tired of ppl coming to defend the system saying its fair into an unfair OP title, sure you are entitled your opinion, but the title didnt say to give pros & cons. the topic is most definatly doing an affirmation & ppl coming in here trying to claim different are not in the right spot in my opinion, theres thank you posts so ,I do not go in there & say things like No,No thank you!!! that'd be rude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    Also, i am sick & tired of ppl coming to defend the system saying its fair into an unfair OP title, sure you are entitled your opinion, but the title didnt say to give pros & cons. the topic is most definatly doing an affirmation & ppl coming in here trying to claim different are not in the right spot in my opinion, theres thank you posts so ,I do not go in there & say things like No,No thank you!!! that'd be rude.
    I don't think anyone was claiming the system is fair. It's not. SE either wanted housing to be exclusive or they just didn't think that far ahead/ran out of time/ are morons. Take your pick.
    If it's a Medium or Large house or nothing for you then you're probably going to end up with nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    bla, the main thing here that you do not seem to get is as its been mentionned several times while some ppl are homeless & will be happy with a small, a ton of us want a medium or a large (FOR PERSONAL USE)
    The number of homes owned by individuals before this patch is exactly the same as when it was rolled out. If they hadn't allowed relocations and made it FC only you'd still be in the same spot you are right now. FC would have taken the spots they wanted, and when the wards opened up to new buyers nothing would be any different.

    I relocated to a large home, but if I hadn't a FC would have moved into it, I guarantee that. So how would stopping relocations have opened up any of the bigger homes for first-time individual buyers? People are acting like had relocations not been allowed all of these larges and mediums would have magically been available when that's just not the case. The Medium I moved out of was already taken by a FC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyanna_Elingval View Post
    The number of homes owned by individuals before this patch is exactly the same as when it was rolled out. If they hadn't allowed relocations and made it FC only you'd still be in the same spot you are right now. FC would have taken the spots they wanted, and when the wards opened up to new buyers nothing would be any different.I relocated to a large home, but if I hadn't a FC would have moved into it, I guarantee that. So how would stopping relocations have opened up any of the bigger homes for first-time individual buyers? People are acting like had relocations not been allowed all of these larges and mediums would have magically been available when that's just not the case. The Medium I moved out of was already taken by a FC.
    {Quote "myself"}I personally watched 6 get popped in my face{Quote}.(you forgot/didnt read that part,had i not been blocked by that system i would & other individuals could also have picked a medium that went to grandfathered single players or fake fc) We are not acting in any way like you affirm, ITS A FACT i know we would still not have a house if they hadnt added new wards, well matter of fact atm WE STILL DO NOT OWN ONE But the highlight of this is that in no way we look at it like Nice! More wards that still restrict us from equality of a medium or a large while we took time to gather the gils, let me say that 'in theory' its much easier for a group of players to spend together the cost of a med or a large than a single player working his ass off for a year, & believe it or not, not everyone hold onto their gils, some actually held themselves from buying things because this is not a fair system & we were,we are keeping hope. It is not about who relocated, its about jailing the individuals from a chance at getting a nice place of the size they want, theres zero fairness in this for individuals so far.
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    Last edited by Ruf; 02-10-2018 at 01:46 PM.