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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    Yoshi P said he doesn't understand why people aren't playing Drk anymore lol it's like...really? You don't know why? It's becoming an apparent issue across ALL the forums and even bleeding out on FFlogs
    It's because he's full of shit. He knows what's wrong. He either doesn't care much or has no idea how to fix the monster he's created.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver_Blade View Post
    They even failed at nerfing WAR as now their burst is even higher AND berserk now doubles as a defensive tool since it forces equilibrium to crit!
    At this point they are just mocking everyone who plays DRK.
    Like parent's taking toys from their son to give to their daughter then laughing as the son cries in the corner.
    SE never said they were nerfing war. If you recall they said it would be a small buff. Players bad at math were the only ones saying it was some doomsday nerf. But sure, lets just fabricate a narrative to match your salted earth.
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  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    Yoshi P said he doesn't understand why people aren't playing Drk anymore lol it's like...really? You don't know why? It's becoming an apparent issue across ALL the forums and even bleeding out on FFlogs

    https://www.fflogs.com/statistics/21#class=Tanks

    Drks are gonna continue to fall behind every week in Sigma Savage as War/Pld gets even stronger.

    Can you link your source?
    ditto. Only recent interview I found addressing anything about jobs was this. So, sauce?
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    If you say so.

  4. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    Can you link your source?
    Here is the snippet from the Blue Gartr interview which took place a bit before the release of patch 4.2.

    Interviewer: Warriors have also been decreasing (in use) a bit.
    Yoshida: Haven't they been on the rise recently? I think it's the opposite. I'm surprised that we've been seeing more warriors than dark knights.

    It's the last bit of Yoshi-P's response that people read and reacted, perhaps even overreacted, to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    Here is the snippet from the Blue Gartr interview which took place a bit before the release of patch 4.2.

    Interviewer: Warriors have also been decreasing (in use) a bit.
    Yoshida: Haven't they been on the rise recently? I think it's the opposite. I'm surprised that we've been seeing more warriors than dark knights.

    It's the last bit of Yoshi-P's response that people read and reacted, perhaps even overreacted, to.
    Overreacting and taking it out of context, imo.
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    If you say so.

  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    Here is the snippet from the Blue Gartr interview which took place a bit before the release of patch 4.2.

    Interviewer: Warriors have also been decreasing (in use) a bit.
    Yoshida: Haven't they been on the rise recently? I think it's the opposite. I'm surprised that we've been seeing more warriors than dark knights.

    It's the last bit of Yoshi-P's response that people read and reacted, perhaps even overreacted, to.
    Right I’m aware of that interview. But that doesn’t seem to suggest that Yoshi P thinks that no one is running dark knight. Maybe I’m just in the wrong frame of mind. It would seem to suggest he is confused about why people would play warrior.
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  7. #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    It would seem to suggest he is confused about why people would play warrior.
    Which would lead anyone and then some to ask "Are you sure you're confused about that?"
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    If you say so.

  8. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    Right I’m aware of that interview. But that doesn’t seem to suggest that Yoshi P thinks that no one is running dark knight. Maybe I’m just in the wrong frame of mind. It would seem to suggest he is confused about why people would play warrior.
    Precisely, and it is that disconnect that I was alluding to with my comment of people overreacting.

    Basically, as I remember it people read that as well as some poorly done fan translations, overly focused on that one snippet, took it out of context by imparting meaning to it that they wanted to be there; then in the ways of the internet it got passed around and memed, being diluted and distorted in the process and eventually becoming "Yoshi-P doesn't understand why people aren't playing DRK more" which while similar is still quite different of a statement. Heck, I even saw a "Yoshi-P thinks DRK is better and more popular than WAR".

    Quote Originally Posted by Mahrze View Post
    Which would lead anyone and then some to ask "Are you sure you're confused about that?"
    My guess as to why Yoshi-P would be surprised how many people were playing WAR would be resulting from how prevalent "complaints" and comments on how much more difficult it was to play WAR and how it required so much more skill than the other tanks. It is likely that he and the dev team saw these and it lead them to believe that less people would likely to be playing the job because of it's supposed level of difficulty and then when they saw the numbers it didn't match at all with that perception. That seems to fit with the most with why they may have felt that they needed to make WAR "easier" to play.
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    Last edited by TouchandFeel; 02-10-2018 at 02:36 AM.

  9. #99
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    My guess as to why Yoshi-P would be surprised how many people were playing WAR would be resulting from how prevalent "complaints" and comments on how much more difficult it was to play WAR and how it required so much more skill than the other tanks. It is likely that he and the dev team saw these and it lead them to believe that less people would likely to be playing the job because of it's supposed level of difficulty and then when they saw the numbers it didn't match at all with that perception. That seems to fit with the most with why they may have felt that they needed to make WAR "easier" to play.
    And they cannot have WAR be the least played tank or 2.0 PTSD triggers :P
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    If you say so.

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    Man, I've been watching twitch streams of savage raiders all day, and a fair chunk of these clears have included Dark knights. I'm not saying that everything is hunky dory and that the job doesn't need an overhaul, but the foundations must surely be firm if so many people are still finding success with it. From what I've seen, it isn't broken, it's just middle of the road.
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