Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Tridus]

One I’ve had in the past when healing:

One of the party members is killed instantly and a Red Mage revives them instantly before me as though it’s a competition to get there first.

Then said revived party member fawns over the Red Mage for reviving them, even though I’m doing a perfectly good job (dps and healing) and no one else dies in the run.

When I'm healing and a RDM does that, I give them a comm. That's someone using their skills effectively.

[ko_]

Disreguard post.

[Thoosa]

When I'm healing and a RDM does that, I give them a comm. That's someone using their skills effectively.

No, I’m fine with them stepping in to raise in order to help out. It’s the way sometimes that comms are handled and it comes off a slight to the healer

[Skivvy]

One I’ve had in the past when healing:

One of the party members is killed instantly and a Red Mage revives them instantly before me as though it’s a competition to get there first.

Then said revived party member fawns over the Red Mage for reviving them, even though I’m doing a perfectly good job (dps and healing) and no one else dies in the run.

I'm guilty of doing this on my RDM. :X I'm not sure if it comes from being a WHM main, but if i see someone go down, I'll always try and give them a quick raise if I can.

I swear I'm not doing it to be annoying - just trying to help out. I know sometimes when I'm on WHM, it's nice to not have to worry about a raise on top of other things - or sometimes my SC is just down and that poor soul would have be to waiting there awhile. :X

(Just saw your last post, oops)

[Lord_Zlatan]

Brayflox Longstop normal. Me and my FC mate healer queue in...

Tank runs off before protect. Pulls the whole room except the group by the gate. Tank dies part way through. Kill the pack tanking as RDM (other party members were BRD and WHM).

Healer gets salty, tank ignores and runs off again before protect. Healer says he will just let the tank die. We get to the boss, I realize the tank is not using grit or darkside. I politely ask him to use either. He uses grit for the last 10 seconds of the boss, then removes it for the rest of the dungeon. He continues to run off, but is now only pulling one enemy at a time when available, or just 1 3 pack when available. Does this up until after the 2nd boss, all the way through the swamp. So slow. Then after the 3rd boss, he pulls the first 3 packs. After a wipe, he then starts pulling the packs to the entrance of the minizone to avoid the patrols. worst run ever. Typing doesnt do it justice.

[Lord_Zlatan]

I'm guilty of doing this on my RDM. :X I'm not sure if it comes from being a WHM main, but if i see someone go down, I'll always try and give them a quick raise if I can.

I swear I'm not doing it to be annoying - just trying to help out. I know sometimes when I'm on WHM, it's nice to not have to worry about a raise on top of other things - or sometimes my SC is just down and that poor soul would have be to waiting there awhile. :X

(Just saw your last post, oops)

If its the tank that goes down, IMO, its better for the RDM to do the raise so the whm can focus on healing the non tank thats about to get aggroed.

[Avatre]

Because just be honest.

True...there was a fair amount of carrying the BLM who didn't move out of ley lines, the healer who was lagging/almost DCing the whole time, and the BRD was always the top priority on my "to res" list(love me some refresh when I'm almost always empty on it). But it was still a fun fight, even with my death due to being distracted.

[KaldeaSahaline]

I was doing a ST run on my alt DRG. During Amon when you need to hide behind the ice boulders everyone was yelling at me to get behind the rock. I knew this, I was just gonna elusive jump to it. I expected to have to adjust slightly, but I literally landed perfectly behind it and then spineshattered back on boss immediately after.

I got 7 comms that run as a DPS. I don't know if they were all together. Can you even get comms from other alliances? I don't give out comms in 24 mans because very few deserve it LOL so I've never looked.

I was told that PLD are the new OT's which was kind of sad being the DRK I was playing with could not keep enmity properly while I was in on sword oath mode. When a PLD has to use Shirk to prevent enmity it's just plain sad. I play all 3 tanks and DRK is my favorite....Goes to show SE could updates job based on assumptions but will never fix the incompetence of a person who thinks they can tank.

Correct PLD's make the best OTs. You should have used shirk. That was your fault for not using it.

Guys... Guys... Did you know, Provoke is part of the OT rotation even when there's no tank swapping mechanics and that it's not the OT's fault that it's so easy to rip aggro while doing it either? Everyone else is just bad and should be grateful that they're clearly being carried by a superior player.

Provoke Shirk is part of my OT rotation. I use it on CD if there is no need to swap due to mechanics.

Usually takes about two days before people start complaining about it. So they're right on schedule. It's really rather annoying.

In happier news, DF gave me Nephtys as my tank. That was fun.

God please I wish we had PM's. I need to know how much fun that run was. Please share.

Just came out of a painfully slow Skalla run with the BLM and DRG blaming each other for having low dps the whole from the first boss till the end. Had a closer look on the last boss and yeah.

This is why I have always advocated for an official unmitigated parsing solution. You can't fake blame over "perceived" DPS when it's widely available to any and all immediate players.

Don't get me wrong... I'm all for a efficient run - but I play to have fun...and I'll be happy if we all get through in one piece without wiping let alone having major accidents.

Ironicly enough - I play to have fun too!

The difference is that my idea of fun is not carrying 1.5k DPS level 70 i330+ players considering my i260 level 60 DRG can do double that dropping Blood of the Dragon 4-6x a dungeon, forgetting to use 4th weaponskills 50% of the time, and forgetting about Battle Litany all together.

Elitist snobs. These arrogant punks are all the same, they think they get to tell me how to play my job/s even when I'm playing perfectly satisfactorily or do ONE THING wrong. It never ceases to TRIGGER me, and I have no patience for confrontational arrogance as it is.

Just because when I'm the tank I move a tad slower than seemingly everyone else, don't pull huge groups and haven't perfected (PERFECTED NO LESS) the use of defensive cooldowns, I get denounced for it by complete strangers almost frequently (and getting dissed for it at all is 1 time too many, thank you very much) who don't understand how to show some respect and gratitude that I don't just let mobs kill their worthless hides when they give me attitude instead of minding their own business, ESPECIALLY when we clear without wiping.

You are way too emotional and upset. I'd like to discuss this rationally though. Let me know when you cool down a bit.

[Frizze]

Sure, no problem... overall 10% damage decrease for this test... p.s. But there's ilvl310min for Hell's Lid, i.e. both DRG and BLM was at or above ilvl310. Doubt they used an i290 weapon.

Thanks for the retest! So about a 10% difference. I honestly thought it might be more(my mental estimate was about twice that - which is why we test rather then estimate). Like i said, my thinking was based on that strongest foul at 15k. I have the 340 weapon(for a little longer) and i regularly see fouls hitting in the 25k+ range. They must be much worse then i thought(and i already apologized on behalf of all BLMs so i thought pretty bad). Also, they were in Skalla which is only i300 required - adding to my maybe they just hit 70 and had suck gear hypothesis(which is now disproved).

They both had just over 35k hp so my rough guess would be at around ilvl 330 for the blm.

Obviously info i didnt have when making said estimate in my head. Extra /hugs for you for coping.

It's going to take forever for me to get to skalla now since I'm still ONLY 298. I just got to endgame btw so yeah. I dont' see gear being ran out too fast when I can't even gear up that fast. Feels like it's going to take years.

So youre doing all at once the gear grind that the rest of us spent the last 6 months on. I get it, its frustrating - i was well behind at 60 so i went through the same thing. So first, dont stress. You dont need to gear up in a day. Second, use the resources we had for 6 months(which were boosted in this patch) to get a leg up. Put up a PF group to run delta 4(story) several times. With 7 runs you get an item that can be exchanged(with some creation tomes) for a 330 weapon - and in those 7 runs you might also get enough parts to exchange for other pieces you want/need. Then one run of Raba, and the coin you get can upgrade that weapon to 340(or any other creation piece) along with a chance to win some 330 armor. You can do this repeatedly if you like to upgrade more creation pieces and maybe winning more Raba ones. Honestly, in a weekend you could knock out what most of us spent a month on(lifting weekly restrictions is THAT strong). Then third, use the new resources available to get ahead. You only need 325 to get into sigmascape, and that gives you parts for 350 gear(sigma 4 also has that get 7 of them drop for a new 360 weapon). All these runs will give you a ton of the new mendacity tomes(probably capping them in fact), and those buy 360s. The only catch is that the newer stuff still has restrictions - only 450 earned tomes per week, and only 1 raid drop per tier per week. But those restrictions are on everyone, not just you. It will all go faster then you think. Stay positive!

[winsock]

Elitist snobs.
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Just because when I'm the tank I move a tad slower than seemingly everyone else, don't pull huge groups and haven't perfected (PERFECTED NO LESS) the use of defensive cooldowns, I get denounced for it by complete strangers almost frequently

For what it's worth, even if you run big pulls you experience the rare "elitist casual" who will yell at you for not being causal enough lol. I've literally had a DPS criticize me in discord for pulling too much when both the healer and myself thought it went well.

If you're experiencing this frequently though, you may want to have an experienced tank mentor you. Inexperienced tanks can cause significant issues for parties, but many of those issues, once identified, can be fixed with minor playstyles changes. If you can't find someone, I'll volunteer, but keep in mind my adamantoise chars are only lvl 60.