Byakko... HM or EX ?

[Vidu]

You bring up Titan EX - may I ask you about Shinryu, bot EX and NM? Because thats the more recent primal here and you know what? People complained that that one was to difficult - and certainly not killed by a PUG-group within 40 minutes. So... have you killed that one as easly?
To be honest: I havent tried Byakko EX yet, but I'd be fine with an EX-fight thats a bit easier than Shinryu was.

You should also notice that the difficulty-mode we ditched since Ifrit, Garuda and Titan is the 4-man-mode, not the EX-mode.

Titan EX was a real nice female dog of a fight - for me at least aswell. But do you know why later EX-modes feel easier? Because we got better at the game, because we've been playing it for years. Oh and because we've got less lag now... again, I cant talk about Byakko or about the experience of anyone else, so I'll speak in general about mine: Back in 2.2 I had trouble getting out of an AoE, partly because of lag, partly because I was just to stupid to do it. Splitting up the boss in T1 and moving it across the battlefield was a challenge and I honestly believed I'd never be able to play anything but a tank during Titan-fights (since as tank you can just stand there and get your head beaten in). Today, I can solo that fight. Landslides arent an issue anymore and I use Tempered Will not to save my ass because I cant do a mechanic but to be able to ignore this wind-knockback-thing in Shinryu so I can dish out more damage.
Titan EX wasnt more difficult as a fight by itself - if we'd get that one today, it would be among the easier ones. Titan EX was bad because we were bad (and probably because of no saftey-net for getting knocked off, I'd like to have that back...).
I understand wanting to have that feeling again and a real challenge for yourself, but I'm not sure thats really possible - and if I think about how the battle with Titan was a battle with a boss, serious lack of skill and lag, I dont think I actually want that back...
Strictly mechanically speaking every EX-mode in HW and SB is more complexe than Titan EX is, as a fight.

[Vhailor]

You bring up Titan EX - may I ask you about Shinryu, bot EX and NM? Because thats the more recent primal here and you know what? People complained that that one was to difficult - and certainly not killed by a PUG-group within 40 minutes. So... have you killed that one as easly?

Shinryu (NM anyway) is an inappropriate comparison. The complaints were largely centered around two factors that don't apply to Byakko: (a) it was a storyline fight; (b) it was a ridiculously large jump in difficulty relative to previous dungeons. Fix either of those, you have fewer justified complaints; fix both of them, you have no justified complaints.

I don't have a horse in this race, as I haven't tried Byakko nor do I plan to anytime soon. Just felt compelled to point out that you weren't comparing apples to apples.

[akaneakki]

You bring up Titan EX - may I ask you about Shinryu, bot EX and NM? Because thats the more recent primal here and you know what? People complained that that one was to difficult - and certainly not killed by a PUG-group within 40 minutes. So... have you killed that one as easly?

They complained it was too hard due to '' too many mechanics''