Here you go Yoshida, hard-straight stats.

[Jennestia]

I really hope this need/greed system goes by each class you have, rather than the current class you're on.

If it's a straight copy and paste of other MMO's NGP (which it probably will be given people's cries to make this a gener-standard MMO) it'll probably pass those who can't even use said item but be randomly distributed by those who claim need and greed, with need getting a higher chance over greed.

That's the basic NGP system without specific tweaks.

[Shoopdadoopdoop]

I like the sound of this. As a substitute for a need/greed/pass system, this sounds like a good fix. Assuming the drop rates for these items aren't extremely low, and we dont need more than a handful of them, it should make players a bit more excited to open the chest after an ifrit clear.


thumbs up.

[EcchiMan]

Meh, this sounds like an OK stopgap. Let's hope drop rates aren't RNG(like the weapons) for the tokens, because then I'd go 0/50 again before I get some; and tokens should be no more than 5-10 per weapon depending on it's drop rate.

[darkstarpoet1]

i can't believe there's people in here supporting this abomination. this is the most horrible loot system i have ever seen in any game.

[Jennestia]

i can't believe there's people in here supporting this abomination. this is the most horrible loot system i have ever seen in any game.

Yet we never played with it yet to come to the conclusion it's an "abomination". Is this truly the "condemn it based on concept" generation of gamers?

[Velhart]

Yet we never played with it yet to come to the conclusion it's an "abomination". Is this truly the "condemn it based on concept" generation of gamers?

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I'm okay with this concept. Could it be better? Definitely. I will take anything over Ifrit's current loot system. I wouldn't judge the items system until you actually experience it.

[Jennestia]

Yeah, I understand speculation, but I'm not sure I see how someone can write something off that requires actual testing to see if it is a good or bad system, I think it is generally because people will put their personal ideas on what works ahead of what a company is trying to do.

[Babydoll]

I like the idea of getting to pick the weapon of your choice after winning or whatever. Kind of like how it was in ffxi.

[darkstarpoet1]

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I'm okay with this concept. Could it be better? Definitely. I will take anything over Ifrit's current loot system. I wouldn't judge the items system until you actually experience it.

well here's the issue and it's not speculation.

1. the weapon drops will remain the same drop rate and the same drop to your inventory list. this system is in place now and it is horrible so i am not speculating that it will be horrible if it stays as is. they did state it would stay the same.

2. the getting of tokens is fine and it is an improvement over what is in place now.

3. the previous system that was used for nm's and batraal where you could actually pass an item once you had it was better. the ifrit drop system and the system upcoming are both a downgrade to what we had at release.

4. the only issue people mentioned with the system pre ifrit drop system was people wanted a master looter. it does not need to take a full year to put that in place and the server as it is now could handle such. how do i know? because it's what each individual person had before hand and instead of it going into 8 loot lists it'd go into 1.

edit: the reason i responded to you was the fact you quoted jenn and since they are on ignore it's the only way i seen them directly ask a question so i responded.

[Deceptistar]

ANOTHER IRRELEVANT POST. ARE U FROM ANOTHER MMO??? THIS IS FINAL FANTASY~! LOOK UP THE HISTORY BEFORE U START CRYING, OR JUST LEAVE ... LOW DROP RATE IS COMMON. TIRED OF U LITTLE BRATS. LEAVE THE DEVS ALONE AND LET THEM FIXED THE MAJOR PROBLEM IN THE GAME. .I.

other MMO or not, the fact is old veteran FFXI players that have lived through the major HNM camping days are also disgruntled. And those are the pple that camped for months and months