Here you go Yoshida, hard-straight stats.

[darkstarpoet1]

i can't believe there's people in here supporting this abomination. this is the most horrible loot system i have ever seen in any game.

[Jennestia]

i can't believe there's people in here supporting this abomination. this is the most horrible loot system i have ever seen in any game.

Yet we never played with it yet to come to the conclusion it's an "abomination". Is this truly the "condemn it based on concept" generation of gamers?

[Velhart]

Yet we never played with it yet to come to the conclusion it's an "abomination". Is this truly the "condemn it based on concept" generation of gamers?

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I'm okay with this concept. Could it be better? Definitely. I will take anything over Ifrit's current loot system. I wouldn't judge the items system until you actually experience it.

[Jennestia]

Yeah, I understand speculation, but I'm not sure I see how someone can write something off that requires actual testing to see if it is a good or bad system, I think it is generally because people will put their personal ideas on what works ahead of what a company is trying to do.

[darkstarpoet1]

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I'm okay with this concept. Could it be better? Definitely. I will take anything over Ifrit's current loot system. I wouldn't judge the items system until you actually experience it.

well here's the issue and it's not speculation.

1. the weapon drops will remain the same drop rate and the same drop to your inventory list. this system is in place now and it is horrible so i am not speculating that it will be horrible if it stays as is. they did state it would stay the same.

2. the getting of tokens is fine and it is an improvement over what is in place now.

3. the previous system that was used for nm's and batraal where you could actually pass an item once you had it was better. the ifrit drop system and the system upcoming are both a downgrade to what we had at release.

4. the only issue people mentioned with the system pre ifrit drop system was people wanted a master looter. it does not need to take a full year to put that in place and the server as it is now could handle such. how do i know? because it's what each individual person had before hand and instead of it going into 8 loot lists it'd go into 1.

edit: the reason i responded to you was the fact you quoted jenn and since they are on ignore it's the only way i seen them directly ask a question so i responded.