Worst Outcome Possible

[Nikita]

Yes you are. The sooner you realize this, the better you're off. How the hell do you deduce what I am complaining about in my OP? You're literally picking a fight here.

I only complained about the removal of enfeeble spells.
If you have not added 1 and 1 yet, you can see how YoshiP has decided to streamline an entire role, enfeebling, in to EVERY DD class. Where is the tactics involved in this? Positioning yourself behind the mobs? Wow...that's really using your noggin there guys.

Oh my gosh I am so blind. You are right - blind, paralyze, silence, and slow adds so much strategy to the game - how silly was I. Wow, really, I am a moron for sure.

*Serious face*

Tactics? They are adding tactics, you really are the moron here, you have got to see that because every time you use that word you embody it even more. As you have mentioned in a different thread, debuffs are still here, though they are part of the combo system. If you have looked at the combo system at all you would realize how much strategy they actually add to the game. They incorporate positioning and timing, it isn't a simple click of a button and a debuff lands on the target instantly making it attack slower or silencing it.

I really don't understand how you can claim tactics have been removed from the game with everything we are getting.

[Lucifer]

Oh my gosh I am so blind. You are right - blind, paralyze, silence, and slow adds so much strategy to the game - how silly was I. Wow, really, I am a moron for sure.

*Serious face*

Tactics? They are adding tactics, you really are the moron here, you have got to see that because every time you use that word you embody it even more. As you have mentioned in a different thread, debuffs are still here, though they are part of the combo system. If you have looked at the combo system at all you would realize how much strategy they actually add to the game. They incorporate positioning and timing, it isn't a simple click of a button and a debuff lands on the target instantly making it attack slower or silencing it.

I really don't understand how you can claim tactics have been removed from the game with everything we are getting.

Come on stupid. Positioning is tactical? Are we in the front lines of Omaha beach?? There is nothing tactical about having to stand in front of or behind a mob. Timing I'll take, but giving the benefit of an added debuff on top of some extra damage?

I want to gear myself up in proper gear so I my spells don't miss. Then I want to time a stun, preventing a powerful aoe from possibly killing my party. I want people to be like "Let's get Lucifer for this fight. He has the proper gear and can time stun very well"

What we have instead is combo spaaaaaaammmmmmm. Your stun MIGHT go off when you combo spaaaaaaaammmmm. Thunder has a chance to stun! THUNDER SPAAAAAAAAAM.

Stupid.

[Nikita]

Come on stupid. Positioning is tactical? Are we in the front lines of Omaha beach?? There is nothing tactical about having to stand in front of behind a mob. Timing I'll take, but giving the benefit of an added debuff on top of some extra damage?

I want to gear myself up in proper gear so I my spells don't miss. Then I want to time a stun, preventing a powerful aoe from possibly killing my party. I want people to be like "Let's get Lucifer for this fight. He has the proper gear and can time stun very well"

What we have instead is combo spaaaaaaammmmmmm. Your stun MIGHT go off when you combo spaaaaaaaammmmm. Thunder has a chance to stun! THUNDER SPAAAAAAAAAM.

Stupid.

Umm, you have x-seconds to move from y-side of the monster to z-side. Yes, that is tactical, stupid. If you think standing off on the side and casting a debuff every 30 seconds is any more strategic than that, there really is absolutely no hope for you at all.

Fire > Firaga > Firaga is a bit, just a tad bit more tactical than just casting a single spell.

Am I wrong? Seriously, you are saying this is less complex and strategic. Am I wrong here? Anybody?

[lenn1]

Come on stupid. Positioning is tactical? Are we in the front lines of Omaha beach?? There is nothing tactical about having to stand in front of or behind a mob. Timing I'll take, but giving the benefit of an added debuff on top of some extra damage?

I want to gear myself up in proper gear so I my spells don't miss. Then I want to time a stun, preventing a powerful aoe from possibly killing my party. I want people to be like "Let's get Lucifer for this fight. He has the proper gear and can time stun very well"

What we have instead is combo spaaaaaaammmmmmm. Your stun MIGHT go off when you combo spaaaaaaaammmmm. Thunder has a chance to stun! THUNDER SPAAAAAAAAAM.

Stupid.

So what stun are you using now that this new patch is taking away?

[Lucifer]

So what stun are you using now that this new patch is taking away?

Go be stupid elsewhere.
Holy hell...

[Answa]

Go be stupid elsewhere.
Holy hell...

She has a legitimate question.