SE, Please consider removing EX trials from the Mentor Roulette.

[Reinha]

Coils/Savage are an entirely different level than Extreme primals. Trying to explain T8 or T9 is infinitely more complex than explaining Shiva EX or Ramuh EX.

What about Thordan ex or Shinryu ex? What chance is there that a sprout who queued blindly is going to carry their weight in a fight where experienced players had to join several practice groups to learn different phases? Many players say that O1S is easier than Shinryu ex, so why is the former not going to be in the roulette but the latter will?

[BillyKaplan]

What about Thordan ex or Shinryu ex?

I'll throw Seph ex into the mix. Took forever to clear and even the unsynced runs for WT are very likely to fail. Hell, Sophia is considered one of the easier extremes out of that batch and I still get into a WT or a farm party that disband after 5 wipes because no one knows what they're doing. And with those things being content from an expansion ago, even synced, people will still underestimate it and wipe. And wipe. And wipe. And blame the mentors.

[ErryK]

What about Thordan ex or Shinryu ex? What chance is there that a sprout who queued blindly is going to carry their weight in a fight where experienced players had to join several practice groups to learn different phases? Many players say that O1S is easier than Shinryu ex, so why is the former not going to be in the roulette but the latter will?

To be fairly honest, I don't know. O1S is a lot easier than both the fights you mention, but even those two fights are easily explainable.

[Jijifli]

To be fairly honest, I don't know. O1S is a lot easier than both the fights you mention, but even those two fights are easily explainable.

As someone who's joined plenty of practice parties and only once seen the start of phase 2, either it's not easily explainable, or it's sounding like players are really really bad at listening.

In the former, why didn't they look up a guide? in the latter, why am I talking to a brick wall AGAIN over Ahk Morn?

[ErryK]

As someone who's joined plenty of practice parties and only once seen the start of phase 2, either it's not easily explainable, or it's sounding like players are really really bad at listening.

In the former, why didn't they look up a guide? in the latter, why am I talking to a brick wall AGAIN over Ahk Morn?

The fight (along with almost every fight in XIV) is extremely scripted, nothing skips until you hit 44% HP, and then again at 24% HP in the final phase. Because of it being so scripted, it is easy to put down the rotation of the fight. Same thing with Thordan EX, and many other EX fights. In your situation, it seems a lack of communication on the receiver's part.

My biggest problem with Mentor Roulette is that when it comes to EX fights, people just rush in and don't bother to wait for explanations from the mentor. So this is why the success rate of EX primals is extremely low if you see anyone's statistics of mentor roulette, in addition to the fact that people don't listen, and even worse if you're in EU where people don't even speak the language you do...