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    Skos's Avatar
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    Tater Thot
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    Moogle
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post

    ... Well, I'm talking of tanks' balance, but WAR still remains the best tank in terms of mitigation and enmity generation. So yeah... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Not only that, but math suggests that it's actually a DPS increase to go into Defiance when Unchained is off CD because of how high it boosts Upheaval. If you only stay in Defiance under Unchained for the minimum required time of 10s it takes for Deliverance to come back off CD, the damage you get from Upheaval outweighs what you lose in terms of GCDs and autos.

    Not to forget this also gives you a "free" Equilibrium heal/threat boost you'd normally not have.

    People are so focused on the changes to Warrior's DPS that they aren't seeing that the tank with the best mitigation and threat generation just got better on both of those sides.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eliroth-Kaminari View Post
    what i see is war now need focus on crit build because 100%Crit+100%DH you IR dmg increase is X crit mod + 25% DH mod. X crit mod because Crit mod change based on how high your crit is.
    This is to be seen. Direct Hit is now absolutely useless for Warrior's burst window, and Critical Hit loses half of it's bonuses (crit chance) and only keeps the critical damage portion of its effect. Crit and Direct Hit lose overall effectiveness from this change.

    While it's true that Crit will have the biggest impact on Warrior's damage during the new Internal Release, it remains to be seen if stacking crit to increase your damage during burst windows is worth it over determination increasing Warrior's overall damage output.
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    Last edited by Skos; 01-27-2018 at 08:54 PM. Reason: grammar

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    wish12oz's Avatar
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    Kae Ko
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Skos View Post
    People are so focused on the changes to Warrior's DPS that they aren't seeing that the tank with the best mitigation and threat generation just got better on both of those sides.
    No one worth a poop uses tank stance on warrior for more than like 5 seconds in savage. WAR has the worst mitigation. And your enmity generation is worse now because you're not using onslaught outside of the 1 free one per 90 seconds, and your overall DPS will be lower.
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    No one worth a poop uses tank stance on warrior for more than like 5 seconds in savage. WAR has the worst mitigation. And your enmity generation is worse now because you're not using onslaught outside of the 1 free one per 90 seconds, and your overall DPS will be lower.
    Literally every single thing in your post is wrong.
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    Ellder Sage
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 70
    It really is.
    Dark Knight has significantly lower mitigation and lower sustainability, less dps and less utility.
    WAR is in a good place as is PLD. The only tank with actual issues right now is DRK.
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