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  1. #31
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    Erudito's Avatar
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    Alex Greaver
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    Brynhildr
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    Machinist Lv 70
    As far as potencies and abilities go, all buffs and nerfs should be filtered through the hardest content in the game. What is the hardest content we have? Omega Savage and Super Savage.

    As far as Summoners were concerned, did they need that nerf when it came to those fights? I don't think so. Yet because they do lots of DPS on dungeons they had to be nerfed. The point of dungeons is to have fun with them since we will be going through them hundreds of times, why hold us back? Just why? If other DPS that were supposed to do more damage than Summoner (on single target) can't match Summoner, that is a problem with the OTHER DPS job, not summoner. I think Samurai fall in this situation.

    And Black Mage, they started smart with adjusting proc and cooldown timers for more continuous DPS but the damage buff is severely lacking. I mean, its 20 points to Fire 4. Raiders that frequent Super Savage, how much DPS is Black Mage behind due to sheer mechanical existence? Does this 20 point increase to Fire 4 cover it? If the answer is no, then I ask the FF14 development team to give more than just 20 points.

    Monk getting that much love miffed me, but this is their expansion so I will let is slide.
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    Last edited by Erudito; 01-27-2018 at 02:24 AM. Reason: More stuff

  2. #32
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    Rhia Nara
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Blm basically didn't get anything, we got our F4 potency BACK (remember it was nerfed with 4.0).
    The other stuff is just qol. It is welcome, but hardly necessary. Mobility wasn't really an issue to experienced Blm players.
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  3. #33
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    Zuzu Belloq
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Mobility shouldn't be an issue even to non experienced BLM players. You can always save Triplecast for it if you don't mind losing its damage potential for it.
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  4. #34
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    Deo Luminai
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lelila38 View Post
    Blm basically didn't get anything, we got our F4 potency BACK (remember it was nerfed with 4.0).
    The other stuff is just qol. It is welcome, but hardly necessary. Mobility wasn't really an issue to experienced Blm players.
    Agreed. I don't play BLM, but I feel like players can cover their weakness if they really try. I've seen amazing BLM in savage, and the worked around the lack of mobility amazingly.

    As a SMN main, I feel kind of the same with the nerfs. SMN Is already one of the most punished classes for messing up their rotation (Not saying others aren't, but if a SMN uses aetherflow on accident with DWT up, then it goes on cd for 60 secs and we don't get the aetherstacks). Now, I feel like I have to literally play flawlessly to maintain good DPS with all the nerfs - which Yoshi has already said that he didn't want jobs to be like that.
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  5. #35
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lelila38 View Post
    Blm basically didn't get anything, we got our F4 potency BACK (remember it was nerfed with 4.0).
    The other stuff is just qol. It is welcome, but hardly necessary. Mobility wasn't really an issue to experienced Blm players.
    Except you have 0.2sec faster cast times so new F4 is stronger than old one.
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  6. #36
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    Ohlala Chica
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    Zodiark
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    they nerfed smn too much

    blm and sam will never and should never be part of the prog or speedkill meta, if theyre suppose to have the highest personal dps..., but they should be considered good alternatives dps in aleast the speed kill meta....

    if after this blm still has issues in getting pfs, than SE fvcked it up (again)..

    they just fvcked over smn for sure though.., a slight nerf ok maybe.., but not every single fvcking cast..
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    Last edited by Shiroe; 01-27-2018 at 02:50 AM.

  7. #37
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    Lina Kirell
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    Moogle
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NovaUltimatum View Post
    The maths needs to apply the Astral Fire III and Enochian % increase too.
    They are multipliers, So it keeps direct proportionnality.

    AF3 = 1.8, eno = 1.1, the two ~2. Comparing 260x2 and 280x2 or 260 and 280 is the same.
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  8. #38
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    Elatus Shadeflare
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elix_Moarbase View Post
    Not trying to call you out, but you clearly do not realize that this isn't even a buff. The potency is a de-nerf, and the rest of the changes are basically qol.
    It's sort of a buff versus Heavensward, since you don't realize Enochian and the fact we get two more Fire IVs per rotation vs HW and it was originally nerfed because the dev team thought more Fire IVs and Foul would make up the difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karshan View Post
    They are multipliers, So it keeps direct proportionnality.

    AF3 = 1.8, eno = 1.1, the two ~2. Comparing 260x2 and 280x2 or 260 and 280 is the same.
    Yeah, and the difference between the two is actually a 38 potency difference. A 2x difference may in fact be 40.
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  9. #39
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    Nova Ultimatum
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    Moogle
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    Thaumaturge Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Karshan View Post
    They are multipliers, So it keeps direct proportionnality.

    AF3 = 1.8, eno = 1.1, the two ~2. Comparing 260x2 and 280x2 or 260 and 280 is the same.
    You're right, my bad!
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    Harold Saxon
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    Odin
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post

    blm and sam will never and should never be part of the prog or speedkill meta, if theyre suppose to have the highest personal dps..., but they should be considered good alternatives dps in aleast the speed kill meta....
    Just stop.
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