Adressing the roots of the housing problem

[Darrcyphfeid]

I see that it's been covered already, but I'll drop it here all the same.

Another thing that I want to point out is that even going forward FCs and people in the system will have an advantage. If a house is demolished you have that random timer blocking purchases... but you can still relocate into them, because relocating and purchasing are different. So to get a medium or large you would either need no FC to notice the demolition, or you would first need to find and win a small plot somewhere and then relocate using that.

I was originally under the impression nobody could own more than 1 FC house on 1 character, that you could not transfer ownership of an FC with a house to someone that already owned an FC house. Are there examples of this happening already?

We won't have examples until after 4.2 drops, but it works if you follow the path of least resistance. Using their wording in the official translation:

- Player E isn't buying those plots, so until the point of Player E-2 being given Master status they shouldn't be stopped.
- Player E-2 and beyond own FC plots, but technically so too do countless not-jerky-people. If you can't purchase an FC on an alt while your main is in a different FC, then the game counts your main as owning an FC. If you're in an FC on your main and your alt, as far as the game is concerned, you already "own" two FCs. And so, continuing that logical process, there's no difference between Player E and any other player.
- People that are being grandfathered in will own multiple FCs, and the system doesn't seem to be doing anything to them - they specifically say that people owning multiple free company estates can freely relocate (so, no checks there). Unless, perhaps, the person chooses to pass Master status to someone else - then we're in the above scenarios again.

While you're all correct in that it makes it slightly more cumbersome for your run of the mill individual to begin house flipping (unless they're selling their plot to FCs), all we're really doing is encouraging them to band together (if they aren't already) while simultaneously giving them less competition at the outset to acquire a stock of houses.

[RayneLittlewinkle]

Make me wish SE hadn't said anything at all until patch day.

Exactly. They shouldn't of said anything until like the day or two BEFORE the 24 hour maintenance They apologized to us about 4.1 and then said they would would make it fair and withhold information. They've already broken that by pushing out personal people from buying a home and also from giving out info early.

People think 1400 homes is plentiful but I think they under estimate how quick they go on Balmung.

[Cylla]

Yep!
Now you got people leaving FC's to make their own by either gathering up 4 random people or friends and rushing to get up in the ranks and points to buy a house, only adding more to the chaos. I'm honestly getting tired of it. I know there more information their supposedly withholding until patch notes/patch day but unless it to tell us that a lottery system was put in or something, it just going to be the same bs all over again. What going to happen when they do let people start buying personal housing? There will be none to buy!!

[LaylaTsarra]

Yep!
Now you got people leaving FC's to make their own by either gathering up 4 random people or friends and rushing to get up in the ranks and points to buy a house, only adding more to the chaos. I'm honestly getting tired of it. I know there more information their supposedly withholding until patch notes/patch day but unless it to tell us that a lottery system was put in or something, it just going to be the same bs all over again. What going to happen when they do let people start buying personal housing? There will be none to buy!!

I would not be surprised that there will be an inception date for FC's that is at least a month old or more. I would hope if there isn't that they would consider doing that because the intent is to allow established FC's who didn't have a house to get one and not allow people to work around the system by quickly making one and leveling it before housing release.

[Cylla]

I would not be surprised that there will be an inception date for FC's that is at least a month old or more. I would hope if there isn't that they would consider doing that because the intent is to allow established FC's who didn't have a house to get one and not allow people to work around the system by quickly making one and leveling it before housing release.

I couldn't agree more. I hope that the case in some form or another. These FC that have been around the longest deserve it more than the few who are just doing it to cheat the system to get a house. I can just see the uproar and frustration if that wasn't the case and all these newly made FC's are able to buy a house also. It SE though and all these years with the housing battle, I'm weary over them doing something right for once.

[illgot]

I would not be surprised that there will be an inception date for FC's that is at least a month old or more. I would hope if there isn't that they would consider doing that because the intent is to allow established FC's who didn't have a house to get one and not allow people to work around the system by quickly making one and leveling it before housing release.

I doubt they are going to write up a whole section of code and alter a lot of existing code just to block people with new FCs for one patch.

[Cylla]

I doubt they are going to write up a whole section of code and alter a lot of existing code just to block people with new FCs for one patch.

I doubt it also, but there a small hope that they may still do something right. Again, we have to remember that not all the information is out yet. Their still withholding information about housing and iirc it was about house purchasing? So who knows, maybe they are getting smart about it now. I'd like to think that Yoshi, who supposedly acted like a normal player on the day of 4.1 patch release and tried to get a house, failing to do so, learned something from a player stand point. If not, well like I said before, incoming rage and frustration...yet again.

[Brynne]

If a house is demolished you have that random timer blocking purchases... but you can still relocate into them, because relocating and purchasing are different.

I was under the impression that the timer blocked both purchases and relocating (ie, the plot is not yet available and is mostly functioning as if it were still taken). Is there a source that clarifies, or will we just find out when the situation comes up?

[Darrcyphfeid]

I was under the impression that the timer blocked both purchases and relocating (ie, the plot is not yet available and is mostly functioning as if it were still taken). Is there a source that clarifies, or will we just find out when the situation comes up?

There's no clarification, just what they've put out officially for the translation. Typically if it were to apply to both they would state that something to the effect of "Plots relinquished by owners will be unavailable for purchase or relocation for a limited time."

Whenever they decide to launch the housing website is when we'll learn more.

[illgot]

I know there more information their supposedly withholding until patch notes/patch day

found this information

"The promised housing update will come a week after the implementation of update 4.2 and will be rather extensive. Six new wards with respective subdivisions will be added to each housing zone.

Free companies without a house will be prioritized over everyone else. There will be plots designated for free company use, and those will be exclusive to FCs with at least four members.

Individuals will be restricted from purchasing a house for a certain period of time after implementation. The team will gauge the situation and decide when to lift said restriction."

This could be a poor translation or could hint at some additional restrictions few are talking about.

I am a little paranoid about the week between 4.2 and the housing update. I suspect that it is indeed a full week of having those new wards locked and everyone being blocked from transferring or buying houses. The paranoid in me worries that the first week will have random houses coming up on the market or have restrictions like prioritizing FCs without houses.

If all new housing wards stay locked until 5th of Feb, then no worries.

But the underlined statement has me very worried. Are mansions (L plots) going to be locked from private ownership from 4.2 on? It sounds like they want to keep mansions FC only and that will impact any private owner trying to transfer to a mansion.