Adressing the roots of the housing problem

[Cylla]

Yep!
Now you got people leaving FC's to make their own by either gathering up 4 random people or friends and rushing to get up in the ranks and points to buy a house, only adding more to the chaos. I'm honestly getting tired of it. I know there more information their supposedly withholding until patch notes/patch day but unless it to tell us that a lottery system was put in or something, it just going to be the same bs all over again. What going to happen when they do let people start buying personal housing? There will be none to buy!!

[LaylaTsarra]

Yep!
Now you got people leaving FC's to make their own by either gathering up 4 random people or friends and rushing to get up in the ranks and points to buy a house, only adding more to the chaos. I'm honestly getting tired of it. I know there more information their supposedly withholding until patch notes/patch day but unless it to tell us that a lottery system was put in or something, it just going to be the same bs all over again. What going to happen when they do let people start buying personal housing? There will be none to buy!!

I would not be surprised that there will be an inception date for FC's that is at least a month old or more. I would hope if there isn't that they would consider doing that because the intent is to allow established FC's who didn't have a house to get one and not allow people to work around the system by quickly making one and leveling it before housing release.

[Cylla]

I would not be surprised that there will be an inception date for FC's that is at least a month old or more. I would hope if there isn't that they would consider doing that because the intent is to allow established FC's who didn't have a house to get one and not allow people to work around the system by quickly making one and leveling it before housing release.

I couldn't agree more. I hope that the case in some form or another. These FC that have been around the longest deserve it more than the few who are just doing it to cheat the system to get a house. I can just see the uproar and frustration if that wasn't the case and all these newly made FC's are able to buy a house also. It SE though and all these years with the housing battle, I'm weary over them doing something right for once.

[illgot]

I would not be surprised that there will be an inception date for FC's that is at least a month old or more. I would hope if there isn't that they would consider doing that because the intent is to allow established FC's who didn't have a house to get one and not allow people to work around the system by quickly making one and leveling it before housing release.

I doubt they are going to write up a whole section of code and alter a lot of existing code just to block people with new FCs for one patch.

[Cylla]

I doubt they are going to write up a whole section of code and alter a lot of existing code just to block people with new FCs for one patch.

I doubt it also, but there a small hope that they may still do something right. Again, we have to remember that not all the information is out yet. Their still withholding information about housing and iirc it was about house purchasing? So who knows, maybe they are getting smart about it now. I'd like to think that Yoshi, who supposedly acted like a normal player on the day of 4.1 patch release and tried to get a house, failing to do so, learned something from a player stand point. If not, well like I said before, incoming rage and frustration...yet again.

[illgot]

I know there more information their supposedly withholding until patch notes/patch day

found this information

"The promised housing update will come a week after the implementation of update 4.2 and will be rather extensive. Six new wards with respective subdivisions will be added to each housing zone.

Free companies without a house will be prioritized over everyone else. There will be plots designated for free company use, and those will be exclusive to FCs with at least four members.

Individuals will be restricted from purchasing a house for a certain period of time after implementation. The team will gauge the situation and decide when to lift said restriction."

This could be a poor translation or could hint at some additional restrictions few are talking about.

I am a little paranoid about the week between 4.2 and the housing update. I suspect that it is indeed a full week of having those new wards locked and everyone being blocked from transferring or buying houses. The paranoid in me worries that the first week will have random houses coming up on the market or have restrictions like prioritizing FCs without houses.

If all new housing wards stay locked until 5th of Feb, then no worries.

But the underlined statement has me very worried. Are mansions (L plots) going to be locked from private ownership from 4.2 on? It sounds like they want to keep mansions FC only and that will impact any private owner trying to transfer to a mansion.

[LalaRu]

Players will be permitted to own only one private and one free company estate

Owning a free company estate, how is it intended? The FC Master's account?

If master changes, the old Master can form a new FC and buy a plot?

If I am Master of a FC with the estate, can one of my alts be promoted to Master in another FC with already an estate?

[Dustytome]

Owning a free company estate, how is it intended? The FC Master's account?

If master changes, the old Master can form a new FC and buy a plot?

If I am Master of a FC with the estate, can one of my alts be promoted to Master in another FC with already an estate?

It's clarified a little later as enrollment in an fc, not just the master. So anyone that's in an FC that owns a house on a world, cannot buy further fc houses on any other character on that same world. However, unless unmentioned restrictions were put into place you can still have someone that doesn't meet the restriction with purchase rights snag a house for an fc or hand over the keys to an fc that has a house to someone that would otherwise be restricted.

[Cylla]

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Biggest problem is the poor translation. I've seen so many debates on what "could" happen and theories that I've lost count now. WTB - better translation.
Don't see why they would lock large plots from private ownership though. Every size house has the same benefits, only difference is the amount of items you can have in and outside of the house. It would be stupid for them to make such a move and we'd probably see even more of an uproar of unfairness when people who do own one right now get to keep theirs.

From what been going around and I hope this one theory is right, is that the relocation system will be active at the time of patch dropping. It was in the live letter information:

Q&A

Q: Can you relocate if you already own several free company estates?
A: Relocating and purchasing are processed differently, so you are able to relocate.

Q: If you already own an estate, would I be restricted in purchasing one on a different World?
A: The restrictions are not by data centers, but per Worlds. Characters on other Worlds will be able to purchase an estate.

Unless they turn off relocating, it sounds to me like anyone who own a house right now can relocate. However, if you're theory is correct and they are now going to limit the large plots to FC, then to me they just went a step backwards big time.
I'm not going to get excited or disappoint just yet until we see the patch notes come live and hopefully find out the FULL detail of what their plan is for handling this. With all the broken translation, it hard to understand just what the heck they mean. There to many theories on what could happen. I still believe they may pop us with a lottery system of some sort, but I could be way off on that thought. Either way, it all going to come to light once that special site is posted.

Further details will be announced on a special site which will be released later.

My only true worry right now is we got all these people breaking off from their FC's and making baby FC's just to buy a house. If they don't slap a restriction against these newly made FC's, it just going to upset those who have been around the longest and still in need of a house. Not only that but as I said earlier, with servers like Balmung, once they do lift the personal buying restriction, there won't be any houses to buy.