Red Mage could use some help.

[Wintersandman]

I read this entire thread. So what do Red Mages want specifically? DRK's, MNK's, BLM's, all have said DPS bla bla bla but they have put forth ideas. There are only two ideas I have seen in here one is have embolden affect all damage types and the other is have VerHoly/Fire cause a debuff to boost magic damage or decrease enemy damage done.

[zuzu-bq]

RDM damage is low but they fit a unique niche of mass rasing. If that niche is taken away from them, they should be buffed. That is what this thread is mostly about.

[cakesphere]

I read this entire thread. So what do Red Mages want specifically? DRK's, MNK's, BLM's, all have said DPS bla bla bla but they have put forth ideas. There are only two ideas I have seen in here one is have embolden affect all damage types and the other is have VerHoly/Fire cause a debuff to boost magic damage or decrease enemy damage done.

Apart from a general potency increase and embolden buffs, RDM could really use a dot. Make verholy/verflare put up a dot or something, idc. But the lack of a dot really hurts RDM when there's movement mechs while SMN/BLM still has some damage rolling on movement even if it's not very much.

[Zytoryu]

I read this entire thread. So what do Red Mages want specifically? DRK's, MNK's, BLM's, all have said DPS bla bla bla but they have put forth ideas. There are only two ideas I have seen in here one is have embolden affect all damage types and the other is have VerHoly/Fire cause a debuff to boost magic damage or decrease enemy damage done.

Personally I just want potency buffs. Embolden not having a damage fall off would be great too.
just enough to bring them toe to toe with MCH would put them in a solid spot. Hopefully they could Nerf SMN at the same time. Let BLM be top DPS alongside SAM SE.

[Kabooa]

Personally I just want potency buffs. Embolden not having a damage fall off would be great too.
just enough to bring them toe to toe with MCH would put them in a solid spot. Hopefully they could Nerf SMN at the same time. Let BLM be top DPS alongside SAM SE.

Embolden not having falloff by itself probably does the trick, while having it also affect magic users would be a notable buff.

It would up their RDPS from .75% on average (or 1% PDPS) to around 1.4-1.5% which puts it in line with almost everyone else, while the personal buff would be a significant bonus should Manafication allow for two melee combos in that window.

[HaroldSaxon]

Personally I just want potency buffs. Embolden not having a damage fall off would be great too.
just enough to bring them toe to toe with MCH would put them in a solid spot. Hopefully they could Nerf SMN at the same time. Let BLM be top DPS alongside SAM SE.

I don't think potency buffs would be a good design decision for RDM. SMN absolutely does not deserve to be nerfed, and as a side note BLM should be above SAM too.

For Red Mage, I don't think you can realistically buff the class until multi rez is dealt with. But if you have to buff the class, I think more OGCD's and more utility is the way to go, rather than raw damage. And maybe making the Melee combo easier to fit into raid buffs like trick attack. Embolden certainly could do with buffs and QoL (allowing other casters to make use of it).

[Zytoryu]

I don't think potency buffs would be a good design decision for RDM. SMN absolutely does not deserve to be nerfed, and as a side note BLM should be above SAM too.

How does SMN not need to be Nerfed? they do literally everything RDM does but better. Much More DPS, more Raid DPS, More Mobility, Raises. A good SMN makes RDM completely mute. the only thing a RDM has over a SMN is being able to raise more than once a minute. but If your in a raid where you have more than 3 deaths a minute its probably to be a wipe anyways. the multi raises only comes in early early progression, soon after your group understands the Mechanics SMN is far far better.

[HaroldSaxon]

How does SMN not need to be Nerfed? they do literally everything RDM does but better. Much More DPS, more Raid DPS, More Mobility, Raises. A good SMN makes RDM completely mute. the only thing a RDM has over a SMN is being able to raise more than once a minute. but If your in a raid where you have more than 3 deaths a minute its probably to be a wipe anyways. the multi raises only comes in early early progression, soon after your group understands the Mechanics SMN is far far better.

Because there are still 5 classes better than it. Bard, Ninja, Dragoon, Machinist and Monk.

And SMN doesn't do Raises better. While it does everything else better and does outclass the other casters - its not because its so strong - its because RDM and BLM are weak by comparison.

[Zytoryu]

Because there are still 5 classes better than it. Bard, Ninja, Dragoon, Machinist and Monk.

And SMN doesn't do Raises better. While it does everything else better and does outclass the other casters - its not because its so strong - its because RDM and BLM are weak by comparison.

https://www.fflogs.com/statistics/17#dataset=90 Are you sure Summoner is outclassed by Monk? Ninja, Bard, Dragoon, and Machinist I can see because of their strong raid presence. but Monk does less DPS than Summoner and brings less. and yes I agree that Casters are currently heavily under powered thanks to Disembowel. but that doesn't mean Summoner gets a free pass to be as over tuned as it is, atleast not without simply buffing RDM and BLM to be on par if not above SMN

[Sunako]

https://www.fflogs.com/statistics/17#dataset=90 Are you sure Summoner is outclassed by Monk? Ninja, Bard, Dragoon, and Machinist I can see because of their strong raid presence. but Monk does less DPS than Summoner and brings less. and yes I agree that Casters are currently heavily under powered thanks to Disembowel. but that doesn't mean Summoner gets a free pass to be as over tuned as it is, atleast not without simply buffing RDM and BLM to be on par if not above SMN

If you look fastest speed kills in o1s there is monk into it.

https://www.fflogs.com/rankings/17#boss=42