Black Mage

[HaroldSaxon]

we got a flat potency buff on our main dps source + mobility (+ proc 6 sec = mobility & tick more dps as it is, less proc clipping) => potency buff + mobility = not disappointed

sure, being able to stock procs would have been better. and increasing B4 too besides F4 would have nice too., but overall still sounds good

never expected something like Ragging Strikes, even if cant aline with other buffs aswell as other classes...

edit: but do agree, the F4 potency increase has to be more than just a "slight" increase (especially since its the only flat increase)

Just wait for it to be a +10 potency increase. They aren't making any changes to SAM, so I can't imagine it will be anything large. We didn't get any significant added mobility compared to what we already had.

[Remedi]

@zuzu regarding AM:but will IT be really useful? I remember that when scorch became castable while moving blinking on wow mage was considered a dps loss.

[Shiroe]

those mobility tweaks really sound like to be enough (unless ofc the next fights have way more heavy/ rng movement-.-'...)

as for the potency buff, would an overall increase of 8% be enough?? (cant do any numbers/ calculating atm)

expected 280, but if 300 is 8% overall

[Lina_Slayer]

280 potency is a 7,7% damage increase on the spell that is like 50-55% of our total dps (so let's settle for 53%) meaning it'll increase our dps by ~4,1%, let's be generous with the proc timing buff and say our total dps was increased by 5% it puts us on 75th percentile Catastrophe (our best fight due to low movement) at a dps of 4929 still behind SMN who deals 4956 on the same fight and of course it is not taking into account party buffs and I'm hand picking a fight we are actually good at.

I think even 300 is not enough and I'm almost sure we are only getting 280, well at least we will not be the worst job in the game anymore, SAM will take our place while we chill as the second worst class in the game...

[Maero]

But movement was not our main issue.
Blm we must always optimize the situation so we have the least amount of movement during fights.
For the potency increase i want to see how much, 300 would not be enough as smn even with it's "nerf" will still be of higher value

[Shiroe]

expected 280, but did no math.. and if 300 is still not enough.. maybe the proc increase means less clipping or losing T-procs = a slight increase.. but probably only minor

if the flat increase is not enough, than SE fvcked up

(or B4 got increased too, just not mentioned??.. B4 must have gotten too? even if its only a slight increase.. but with the proc too..)

[zuzu-bq]

@zuzu regarding AM:but will IT be really useful? I remember that when scorch became castable while moving blinking on wow mage was considered a dps loss.

It's nice on Nael because of its random movements and constant forcing you into moving out and in. But that's about it. Everywhere else its usually meant to just cover distances long enugh to make it better than sprinting to that place or in cases Sprint is down.

[Remedi]

Ye but my point was that you might want to just reach a place while using procs/swift/triple hence the comparison to wow, AM kinda feels like the very last resort and nothing more

[Shiroe]

hows the increase if B4 got buffed too?? a 0.5% increase??

B4 must have gotten buffed too, its the F4 twin..., the B4 buff was probably just not mentioned

[Lina_Slayer]

B4 going to 280 is like a 0,4% to 0,5% gain.