Potential dumb question about Sch stats.

[Ametrine]

I used piety hard when SB first launched. The job took a huge hit in mana management at 4.0's launch, but was rolled back and tweaked a great deal since.

The only stat that really trips me up is Mind. Despite being our main stat in base heal/dmg potency, it's never prioritized.

[Tridus]

I used piety hard when SB first launched. The job took a huge hit in mana management at 4.0's launch, but was rolled back and tweaked a great deal since.

The only stat that really trips me up is Mind. Despite being our main stat in base heal/dmg potency, it's never prioritized.

Mind is pretty heavily prioritized, it's just that it's always already there and can't be melded on most gear. So it's not really a factor except in a couple of cases where maybe a 340 item is worse than 330 item due to the substats, despite the 340 item having more Mind.

As for DH, it's pretty hard to get enough to make it have a noticeable impact, and you're giving up a lot to do that since it does absolutely nothing for healing. It's not really worth it for healers vs more Crit/Det.

[ChiiSoSeriouz]

So it's not really a factor except in a couple of cases where maybe a 340 item is worse than 330 item due to the substats, despite the 340 item having more Mind.

As for DH, it's pretty hard to get enough to make it have a noticeable impact, and you're giving up a lot to do that since it does absolutely nothing for healing. It's not really worth it for healers vs more Crit/Det.

That's not true, actually. Det shouldn't be prioritized over dh if you're melding with the intention of having higher damage. Since theres no base dh on healer and tank gear it scales very well at low amounts, and has a very noticeable impact on damage. And there are no "couple cases" where a 330 item is better then 340.. However, the 320 hq torreya bracelet pentamelded with dh is bis over the 340 genji bracelet.

[CreinCrein]

The 330 tome ring is BiS

[ChiiSoSeriouz]

No its not lol, the augmented 340 tome ring is bis, theres nothing 330 thats bis.

[KageTokage]

I'd think from a healing standpoint, the 330 ring is better then the 340 genji ring due to no piety.

Isn't the 330 chest from Rabanastre considered BiS for healing for the same reason?

Crafted accessories pentamelded for DH seem like they're always going to be BiS for DPS purposes unless something changes in terms of tank/healing accessory stat distribution.

[era1Ne]

I'd think from a healing standpoint, the 330 ring is better then the 340 genji ring due to no piety.

Yep, from and healing/dps standpoint the 330 tomes ring is better than the genji ring, because it doesnt has piety on it and you only need so much piety. How much an healer needs depends on the encounter, her/his skill and ofc the group.

Isn't the 330 chest from Rabanastre considered BiS for healing for the same reason?

No, the 340 genji chest is bis.

Crafted accessories pentamelded for DH seem like they're always going to be BiS for DPS purposes unless something changes in terms of tank/healing accessory stat distribution.

Thats not true for healers. There are only a few pentamelded accesories that are depending on the build better than their 340 counterpart and this doesn't really have something to do with dh. Some 340 items have piety and if you don't need more mana, you should use an pentamelded acc instead in some cases.

That's not true, actually. Det shouldn't be prioritized over dh if you're melding with the intention of having higher damage. Since theres no base dh on healer and tank gear it scales very well at low amounts, and has a very noticeable impact on damage. And there are no "couple cases" where a 330 item is better then 340.. However, the 320 hq torreya bracelet pentamelded with dh is bis over the 340 genji bracelet.

You cant compare tanks with healers here, because the stats even for classes have an different impact. For example an bard has skills that trigger/proc, if the dots crit and therefore crit is the go to stat for this class. This doesn't mean a) that crit has the same impact for other classes (it doesn't) and b) that crit is the go to stat for every class.

I see. What about DH? Should I be worrying about that as a Sch healer or should I focus more on buffing my healing via det and sps/pie and have my dps be more of a bonus instead of a focus?

Thats on you to decide, but if you are using an crit build the difference between choosing as the next/"filler" stat det/dh is very small. It is less than an 1% dmg increase, if you meld dh over det in an crit build and this doesn't really matter much imo. Currently i run with crit/det, because crit gets better the more points you got and it works great for every healer, especially scholar. Also keep in mind that dh doesn't increase your healing at all.

[FeliAiko]

DH has as much impact on Healer DPS as racial stats. That's not to say it shouldn't be melded, but it relies on the premise that you're able to fully maximise the DPS potential of SCH (or WHM and AST, respectively) to begin with, in addition to coordinating well with your co-healer. If you can't do this, then going Det is most likely going to be the better option.

This Reddit post covers the subject in more depth: https://redd.it/7l22nr