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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Honestly I think dancer will be the next healer due to its popularity and how people were extremely disappointed that it was not the new healer for stormblood prior to the announcement of the 2 dps jobs.

    But we will find out in november.
    Well I do agree that Dancer is inevitable. But we may not see it till Yoshie can make it work in an interesting way. I mean I love me some dancer, but what would it do that the other healers don't? And who said we will get only one new healer? Stormblood gave us two dps. Maybe this time we will get two healers. Or maybe the'll turn Dancer into an evasion tank and give us a tank and a healer. Or I'm just out of my mind. Who knows?
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    Well I do agree that Dancer is inevitable. But we may not see it till Yoshie can make it work in an interesting way. I mean I love me some dancer, but what would it do that the other healers don't? And who said we will get only one new healer? Stormblood gave us two dps. Maybe this time we will get two healers. Or maybe the'll turn Dancer into an evasion tank and give us a tank and a healer. Or I'm just out of my mind. Who knows?
    For 5.0, it's pretty much be expected that if we do get two jobs, it'll likely be one tank and one healer just to keep the number for each of those roles even.

    As for Dancer, although it does have the potential to fit any role (and even I've made enough Dancer concepts to show that), I think the expectation for it to be some sort of melee healer has grown so much over the years due to desires of not only the job, but other mechanical features such as a non-caster healer that there'd probably be a greater uproar if it wasn't a healer, moreso than that of DRK for not being a DPS or SAM for not being a tank.

    I do agree though that we won't have it until Yoshi gets it "just right" as he put it.
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  3. #33
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    Updated the OP with job story and combat description.
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  4. #34
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    Here is how I think Necromancer should be implemented into this game:

    Replace Summoner with it, make Summoner a new job that actually is a true Summoner job.
    Replace Egis with Zombies. Said Zombies would be like the friendly ones from Hildibrand questline. This would make it more lore-friendly and less taboo.
    Change things like Dreadwyrm Trance to Lich Trance or something, same effect and all but named more appropriately for a Necromancer.

    Why do this instead of make it a new job? Because let's be honest here: the current Summoner job is a lot like a typical Necromancer job, only it doesn't deal with the undead. Necromancers and DoTs just mesh imo. Some abilities wouldn't need to change at all to fit a Necromancer's repertoire!
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
    Here is how I think Necromancer should be implemented into this game:

    Replace Summoner with it, make Summoner a new job that actually is a true Summoner job.
    Replace Egis with Zombies. Said Zombies would be like the friendly ones from Hildibrand questline. This would make it more lore-friendly and less taboo.
    Change things like Dreadwyrm Trance to Lich Trance or something, same effect and all but named more appropriately for a Necromancer.

    Why do this instead of make it a new job? Because let's be honest here: the current Summoner job is a lot like a typical Necromancer job, only it doesn't deal with the undead. Necromancers and DoTs just mesh imo. Some abilities wouldn't need to change at all to fit a Necromancer's repertoire!
    That much is true. DoTs and Summoning was more or less what Necro did in FFV. With the added bonus that the DoTs were aquired via blue magic.

    But we DPS got plenty of nice tools for us and it is time for tanks and healers to play a bit. I might be biased but I think this is more unique than simply making a healer that saaaay uses TP as a resource but essentially acts the same as the three we have now.
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  6. #36
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    How about three variations of Dancer for each role? I could make a Linkshell called ”Dance Club“
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredco191 View Post
    How about three variations of Dancer for each role? I could make a Linkshell called ”Dance Club“
    I proposed something similar for the Samurai debate, but supposedly Yoshi-P doesn't like how Scholar and Summoner turned out so no different role variations of the same job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    I proposed something similar for the Samurai debate, but supposedly Yoshi-P doesn't like how Scholar and Summoner turned out so no different role variations of the same job.
    R.I.P. Dance Club
    A few hours ago - 2018
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    Last edited by Fredco191; 01-11-2018 at 11:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredco191 View Post
    R.I.P. Dance Club
    A dream - 2017
    They could have re-purposed PoTD: "Over 100 floors of bangin' tracks - dance 'till you drop"
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilyrian View Post
    They could have re-purposed PoTD: "Over 100 floors of bangin' tracks - dance 'till you drop"
    Well we do need a new deep dungeon. One that scales up to level 70.
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