Thread: New Job idea for 5.0 Necromancer

Necromancer is so much more than just having a pet. They are often amazing hemomancers, they can wield the power of blood, sinew and bone. They spread the chill of the grave, and even diseases if neccessary.

I am in love with the concept of a Necromancer, and I wouldn't mind XIV doing a new take on the said job.

Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman

For pet issues please refer to machinist which sadly fills that little gap. The other big idea that could work is already filled by astrologians.

As much as I would love a dark magic themed job, the work around is just too complicated. To reiterate my fellows:
-Every related quest line displays it as bad and not to be used(emphasis on whm 50-60 quests)
-The world lore is predominantly hydelean worshipers which conflicts with the themes
-Ascians sort of already do this

Again, I would love it, but I don't think they'll got for it.

Well as a last resort we can go the way Bravely Default went with the Vampire Job. Dude wasn't really a vampire but just decided to roll with it when people decided to call him as such. Beside the whole spirit thing, that I only included to bring it closer to the V Necro, we really wouldn't be resurrecting the dead. We would just be moving health left and right.

Or here is an even better idea. Briardien contacts us. He found a cover of Necromancers and wants us to inflitrate the group to find out their plans and foil them. As far as lore is concerned we throw away the job crystal at the end of the questline, never to use it again. But in terms of gameplay we keep using it.

Not to work against myself but personally I think the largest "Necromancy is bad mmmkay" storyline is PotD

The best outcome of Necromancy, as seen in the ALC storyline, is still pretty crap, and would be no use in a fight. I think it just doesn't fit the storyline very well. Even things like extending your life via technology is seen as "bad", witness the Allagans.

Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

I do like the idea of some alternative resource management to MP. Most people would suggest TP (and a lot of the Dancer proposals center around that), but I'd rather see something else entirely.

Sure, but simply trading MP for TP wouldn't make them any different mechanic or playstyle wise. That's why I aimed for something more foreign (perhaps too foreign judging by some of the responses.) But to be fair we really need something left field crazy as our options for a healer class are getting limited. Pretty much the only dancer XI had that XIV didn't is Dancer. After that we need to think outside of the box if we want more healers.

Originally Posted by Balipu

Sure, but simply trading MP for TP wouldn't make them any different mechanic or playstyle wise. That's why I aimed for something more foreign (perhaps too foreign judging by some of the responses.) But to be fair we really need something left field crazy as our options for a healer class are getting limited. Pretty much the only dancer XI had that XIV didn't is Dancer. After that we need to think outside of the box if we want more healers.

I wouldn't mind a healer akin to Discipline Priest in WoW. Or any sort of healer that siphons health in order to heal. There are heals outside of applying healing through dps, but they require timing and are not cheap. Just my 5 cents.

Originally Posted by Synrin

I wouldn't mind a healer akin to Discipline Priest in WoW. Or any sort of healer that siphons health in order to heal. There are heals outside of applying healing through dps, but they require timing and are not cheap. Just my 5 cents.

Sure, but what job would we give that role to? We can't go with the wow route and just pull specs out of our asses regardless of things like: does it make sense for the class? is it different from the other specs? Is it viable?

Yoshie-P did say that eventually he will create jobs that never existed before, but at present we are still using previous FF jobs. I wouldn't picture many jobs that siphon away health. Frankly I picked the mechanic first and tried to figure out what job can take it.

Originally Posted by Balipu

Sure, but what job would we give that role to? We can't go with the wow route and just pull specs out of our asses regardless of things like: does it make sense for the class? is it different from the other specs? Is it viable?

Yoshie-P did say that eventually he will create jobs that never existed before, but at present we are still using previous FF jobs. I wouldn't picture many jobs that siphon away health. Frankly I picked the mechanic first and tried to figure out what job can take it.

Why, a necromancer of course. They can easily manipulate life force to preserve balance between life and death, good and evil.

Nothing wrong with pulling things out of your ass rather than copying the same old same old.

Originally Posted by Singularity

I actually don't think that's much of a barrier. There are many societies on Hydaelyn. Not all of them worship the twelve and not all of them will have the same taboos. It could easily be a job with origins in a place we haven't been to yet, or indeed a place we go to in the expansion that it gets released in.

It's also about societies outside of the game as well, as this game is sold in places where most elements associated with the necromancer theme would be either banned or extremely limited.

Originally Posted by Balipu

Sure, but what job would we give that role to? We can't go with the wow route and just pull specs out of our asses regardless of things like: does it make sense for the class? is it different from the other specs? Is it viable?

So healing-via-damage in this game would considered as a supplementary healing system, or a means of healing that can take place while the healer is doing something else (i.e. HoTs, faerie heals). Think of it like a White Mage doing damage while Medica II and Regen provide healing, except that Medica II tick would be directly caused by a tick from an Aero spell and a cast of a Stone spell would heal the tank for about as much as a Regen tick. Something along those lines.