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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post

    I do like the idea of some alternative resource management to MP. Most people would suggest TP (and a lot of the Dancer proposals center around that), but I'd rather see something else entirely.
    Sure, but simply trading MP for TP wouldn't make them any different mechanic or playstyle wise. That's why I aimed for something more foreign (perhaps too foreign judging by some of the responses.) But to be fair we really need something left field crazy as our options for a healer class are getting limited. Pretty much the only dancer XI had that XIV didn't is Dancer. After that we need to think outside of the box if we want more healers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    Sure, but simply trading MP for TP wouldn't make them any different mechanic or playstyle wise. That's why I aimed for something more foreign (perhaps too foreign judging by some of the responses.) But to be fair we really need something left field crazy as our options for a healer class are getting limited. Pretty much the only dancer XI had that XIV didn't is Dancer. After that we need to think outside of the box if we want more healers.
    I wouldn't mind a healer akin to Discipline Priest in WoW. Or any sort of healer that siphons health in order to heal. There are heals outside of applying healing through dps, but they require timing and are not cheap. Just my 5 cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synrin View Post
    I wouldn't mind a healer akin to Discipline Priest in WoW. Or any sort of healer that siphons health in order to heal. There are heals outside of applying healing through dps, but they require timing and are not cheap. Just my 5 cents.
    Sure, but what job would we give that role to? We can't go with the wow route and just pull specs out of our asses regardless of things like: does it make sense for the class? is it different from the other specs? Is it viable?

    Yoshie-P did say that eventually he will create jobs that never existed before, but at present we are still using previous FF jobs. I wouldn't picture many jobs that siphon away health. Frankly I picked the mechanic first and tried to figure out what job can take it.
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    For pet issues please refer to machinist which sadly fills that little gap. The other big idea that could work is already filled by astrologians.

    As much as I would love a dark magic themed job, the work around is just too complicated. To reiterate my fellows:
    -Every related quest line displays it as bad and not to be used(emphasis on whm 50-60 quests)
    -The world lore is predominantly hydelean worshipers which conflicts with the themes
    -Ascians sort of already do this

    Again, I would love it, but I don't think they'll got for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman View Post
    For pet issues please refer to machinist which sadly fills that little gap. The other big idea that could work is already filled by astrologians.

    As much as I would love a dark magic themed job, the work around is just too complicated. To reiterate my fellows:
    -Every related quest line displays it as bad and not to be used(emphasis on whm 50-60 quests)
    -The world lore is predominantly hydelean worshipers which conflicts with the themes
    -Ascians sort of already do this

    Again, I would love it, but I don't think they'll got for it.
    Well as a last resort we can go the way Bravely Default went with the Vampire Job. Dude wasn't really a vampire but just decided to roll with it when people decided to call him as such. Beside the whole spirit thing, that I only included to bring it closer to the V Necro, we really wouldn't be resurrecting the dead. We would just be moving health left and right.

    Or here is an even better idea. Briardien contacts us. He found a cover of Necromancers and wants us to inflitrate the group to find out their plans and foil them. As far as lore is concerned we throw away the job crystal at the end of the questline, never to use it again. But in terms of gameplay we keep using it.

    Not to work against myself but personally I think the largest "Necromancy is bad mmmkay" storyline is PotD
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    The best outcome of Necromancy, as seen in the ALC storyline, is still pretty crap, and would be no use in a fight. I think it just doesn't fit the storyline very well. Even things like extending your life via technology is seen as "bad", witness the Allagans.
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    How about three variations of Dancer for each role? I could make a Linkshell called ”Dance Club“
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredco191 View Post
    How about three variations of Dancer for each role? I could make a Linkshell called ”Dance Club“
    I proposed something similar for the Samurai debate, but supposedly Yoshi-P doesn't like how Scholar and Summoner turned out so no different role variations of the same job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    I proposed something similar for the Samurai debate, but supposedly Yoshi-P doesn't like how Scholar and Summoner turned out so no different role variations of the same job.
    R.I.P. Dance Club
    A few hours ago - 2018
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    Last edited by Fredco191; 01-11-2018 at 11:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredco191 View Post
    R.I.P. Dance Club
    A dream - 2017
    They could have re-purposed PoTD: "Over 100 floors of bangin' tracks - dance 'till you drop"
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