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    Lilseph's Avatar
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    Shadow Link
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Elkanah View Post
    Any content outside of Savage, does not require a parser. Savage content requires FFLOGS or Parsing to see where your DPS is at for each DPS/Tank/Healers to clear that savage content you're wiping to.
    Yes, that'd be correct, but on a superficial level, it also helps anywhere else. But imo, say you're practicing a job out. You might want to run it through dungeons either for gear/leveling purposes or ex primals. The parser under these conditions would help you to start tunning your rotation in order to achieve a decent level of profiency. Same with sitting in a training dummy. You don't want to learn your job during raid, that's for sure.

    It's a guide, extra data never hurts. Now if people DEMAND certain degree of DPS, well, that's up to them. Right off the top of my head "skip soar or disband", you can filter the poor performers instead of trashing the whole group because one or more people. If people are farming primals, they want to do it the fastest way possible and that requires players that are good. inb4 people interpret this as "OMG PURFFFECT PLAY AGAIN YOU ELITIST". No *SLAPS* NO! "Good" as in "people that got their rotation down" and "know how to play their job" and "are not dead weight for the group", like the DPS on the OP's fflogs: Both the tanks and the healers were carrying the DPS in that group, do you think that's fair? but you already covered that when you spoke about its utility in raid content. However, I am sure this also happens in Ex trials, which you excluded.

    The tool can be used completely or partially, depending on the content you're running. It's always amusing to measure your own performance and comparte it to the rest of the group. For better or worse, it's there.
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    Salted's Avatar
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    Salted Tanks
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilseph View Post
    Right off the top of my head "skip soar or disband", you can filter the poor performers instead of trashing the whole group because one or more people.
    LOL skip soar or disband. In-game parser with showing average parses would have DEFINITELY helped there. Most of the groups I was in had decent dpses maybe lower than normal ilvl but their dps was good enough, and had MASSIVE tank or healer dps problems, but the DPS ALWAYS got blamed while tanks/healers were toxic. There were tanks hitting 1/4 of what they should be hitting (-1500 dps) or healers not even dpsing AT ALL that would call the DPS "shit" because they weren't skipping soar. Can't call them out because they'll ban you for mentioning their dps.

    DPS is a GROUP responsibility, dps is just more responsible for it. Just like keeping hate is a GROUP responsibility the tank is just more responsible for it. You don't not pop diversion take hate or spam cure III take agro and not pop lucid, then call the tank "shit" .
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    Last edited by Salted; 01-06-2018 at 09:41 AM.