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  1. #31
    Player
    Cidel's Avatar
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    Bastok
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    Cidel Paratonnerre
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    Hyperion
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    What will cause a fair amount of people to move on from this mode a bit quicker is the fact that the mount is much easier (faster) to acquire than previous rewards.

    Whereas everything in the 3-way Frontlines required your GC/team to defeat both of the other teams, here your odds are about an even 50/50 split. I imagine it is an even quicker obtainable achievement for some if they were on a particularly "difficult" GC back then.
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  2. #32
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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Lace Valeria
    World
    Jenova
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Honestly, it's the combination of large, unaddressed problems (healer balancing, role stacking, heavy melee disadvantage), repeatedly enforced bad strategy ("Mid = win", trying to leave towers up, Brutes being wasted on fighting/blocking players and not attacking/defending objectives), and poor sportsmanship (loudest complaint is usually the biggest quitter, people giving up soon as they fail to cap mid/lose a tower right away) that drive people away from the mode.

    I like Rival Wings, I really do. But as a veteran PvPer, as someone willing to keep fighting, even when things are looking bad, and as someone with the mount who's still willing to queue, I don't want to play if that's what I have to deal with. And if SE's seriously looking into possibly restricting pre-formed parties, in the sense that I won't be free team up with my friends that I KNOW I can count on to use good strategy and not roll over for the other team once they think they can't win, I'll have even less desire to play.
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  3. #33
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
    World
    Cerberus
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    Reaper Lv 90
    I just really want to enjoy PvP in this game. I've already given up on Feast due to people win trading, the awful queue times and the unfortunate reality that most matches are based on which team has the better healer rather than which team did better overall.

    Rival Wings is a lot of fun...when it goes well. Yet it's another game mode largely dictated by which side happens to have the most/best healers to the point where stacking the role is encouraged. It just isn't enjoyable to go up against a group of healers.
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  4. #34
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    I'm a healer and even I am annoyed by Rival Wings. I'd much rather be supporting my team with clutch heals or maybe try to get Brute out for once. Unfortunately I'm usually parked at mid standing around waiting for someone to come try (unsuccessfully) to take it from me and the other healers standing around.

    The most excitement I see is getting to go below mid and pick up some CE. Not for long before someone screeches in all caps for healers to go to top mid.
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  5. #35
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    Araxes's Avatar
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    Runic Raven
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    Zodiark
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
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  6. #36
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    Fannah's Avatar
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    Fannah Loydera
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    Moogle
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    If we don't have the hour it is, that screenshot means nothing (you can even reach 500+minutes if you do it at night).
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  7. #37
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    Corona Skyy
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    Goblin
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    Botanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Fannah View Post
    If we don't have the hour it is, that screenshot means nothing (you can even reach 500+minutes if you do it at night).
    its never been this bad before though, especially not with new content. 25-40 minutes was considered bad in seal rock a year or more after it released, at 4am eastern time.
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  8. #38
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    Kenzeil Zolas
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 30
    Once there's more bots coming over from frontlines, it'll probably pop more reliably. On the downside, it'll be awful matches because they'll be full of bots.

    FANTASTIC PVP 10/10
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  9. #39
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    Albert Kisama
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Fannah View Post
    If we don't have the hour it is, that screenshot means nothing
    Regardless of time of day, I'd say it's a bad sign that there aren't 48 people in the entire data center queued.
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  10. #40
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    Hana Kaneuchi
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    Midgardsormr
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Bots are running rampant at this hour. I really wish SE would do something about them now.
    I mean seriously. How long are they going to let this pass? Enough is enough.
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