Astragalos is already empty.

[RiyahArp]

Seal Rock had multiple rewards to keep playing, though. The field commander set, your warsteed mount for 100 wins with a GC, and ADS for wins overall. You also had the hand of mercy title for very long term wins. And keep in mind that pvp pops usually only during primetime. I get 5-10 min queues for rival wings except on early mornings.

[Corona_S]

that's a fair point, and i realize my general playtime is outside the norm since i work nights - but it still seems like this new mode dropped too far too fast in terms of queue time. even considering the different achievement drops, frontlines had a community. people who had the drops and kept playing. it's been what, 5 weeks since 4.15? this drop is steep regardless of achievement items. and there's no denying the overall decline in pvp. it's evident even if you just run the daily roulette.

[Wintersandman]

Seal Rock had multiple rewards to keep playing, though. The field commander set, your warsteed mount for 100 wins with a GC, and ADS for wins overall. You also had the hand of mercy title for very long term wins. And keep in mind that pvp pops usually only during primetime. I get 5-10 min queues for rival wings except on early mornings.

ADS mount and Warsteed have been around since before Seal Rock.

[RiyahArp]

If you were new to pvp during Seal Rock, compared to being new to pvp at RW, the rewards took longer and kept you playing longer. My point.

[Corona_S]

and my point is that the rewards weren't what kept people playing seal rock. they played it for long after they were unlocked to the point where the mode had a community that continued into shatter. not so with rival wings - it seems to have killed pvp.

[Wintersandman]

If you were new to pvp during Seal Rock, compared to being new to pvp at RW, the rewards took longer and kept you playing longer. My point.

100 wins for warsteed and 100 wins for the Commander's set. 100 wins for the RW set. 100 wins for White ADS. Less than that for Garo. Black ADS was from 2.0 which was 200 wins. Seal Rock was the start of the 100 wins.

The only reason I could see rewards taking longer is because the win ratio was 33% with RW being 50%. As you only have one other team versus 2 other teams.

[uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweugwemu]

They will probably release another mode similar to RW in 4.3? Who knows, maybe all will be in a single roullette.. be much easier

[Nezerius]

100 wins for warsteed and 100 wins for the Commander's set. 100 wins for the RW set. 100 wins for White ADS. Less than that for Garo. Black ADS was from 2.0 which was 200 wins. Seal Rock was the start of the 100 wins.

The only reason I could see rewards taking longer is because the win ratio was 33% with RW being 50%. As you only have one other team versus 2 other teams.

You also have to keep in mind that doing RW doesn't allow players to work on the warsteed, Commander's set, white ADS, black ADS, or the GARO wins achievement, since RW isn't a frontline map.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

It counts for Garo.

[LittleChickenNugget]

I don't know. 40 minutes before Maint, it only took me 6 minutes to get in it.