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  1. #181
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    NoctisXV's Avatar
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    Sushi Wasabi
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    This game is going crazy with the cash shop for a game that is not a F2P.
    I have been playing the game since patch 2.0 and I can't understand why we should pay this amount of money for exclusive mounts and emotes.
    I mean we are playing a based paid game with a monthly fee so I was OK for SE to put old event items in the cash shop but this is going insane now with all these exclusive items in the MogStation.
    So what can we expect as next step SE ? A new Job to buy exclusively on MogStation for the next expansion ?
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  2. #182
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    Claviusnex's Avatar
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    Alinhbo Rhiki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sakuraluna View Post
    The amount of playable content being added per patch has shrunk over time.
    I don't think that is related to the cash shop though.
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  3. #183
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    Dyvid's Avatar
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lathander81 View Post
    I agree with you. So now what you are saying is that you are ok with SE making items to sell to you when you already pay a sub? Why am I paying a sub when they could just live off the money in the cashshop then? If thats how they want to monetize it. When I started playing this game there were no emotes or mounts in the cashshop...there were outfit but only event ones. Not this is slowing looking like a ftp cashshop.
    Slepnir mount would like to have a word with you. This have been a thing since 2014. Yoshi-P has already stated the "Cash Shop" helps pay for things like new server.
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    Last edited by Dyvid; 12-27-2017 at 06:57 AM.

  4. #184
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    Malfoy Fleurentine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claviusnex View Post
    I don't think that is related to the cash shop though.
    So you mean to say that there's not a problem until after cash shop content begins to overshadow playable content added to the game.

    I mean, it's slow going but it will get a lot worse before we cross that threshold. I'm simply looking at how things have progressed over time so far.
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    Last edited by Sakuraluna; 12-27-2017 at 06:58 AM.


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  5. #185
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    Teraluna's Avatar
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    Tera Luna
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    Louisoix
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    Seen a few of these around now, ridden by various races.
    They look good for lalas, but seem a bit squashed for the larger races.
    Maybe a bit more scaling up needed?
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  6. #186
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    Lho Polaali
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teraluna View Post
    Seen a few of these around now, ridden by various races.
    They look good for lalas, but seem a bit squashed for the larger races.
    Maybe a bit more scaling up needed?
    You leave my squished children alone they're perfect as they are. The Yokai Watch mounts are also some of my favorite for the precise reason they look so utterly ridiculous.
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  7. #187
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    Dyvid's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sakuraluna View Post
    So you mean to say that there's not a problem until after cash shop content begins to overshadow playable content added to the game.

    I mean, it's slow going but it will get a lot worse before we cross that threshold. I'm simply looking at how things have progressed over time so far.
    It's been almost 4 years now and I can count the "must have" mounts on one hand. So when is the sky suppose to fall exactly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Teraluna View Post
    Seen a few of these around now, ridden by various races.
    They look good for lalas, but seem a bit squashed for the larger races.
    Maybe a bit more scaling up needed?
    No kidding, poor carby looks to be in agony.
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    Last edited by Dyvid; 12-27-2017 at 07:02 AM.

  8. #188
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    Lathander81's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Slepnir mount would like to have a word with you. This have been a thing since 2014. Yoshi-P has already stated the "Cash Shop" helps pay for things like new server.
    Right you are about that mount I almost forgot. Still the point is they have more than enough to pay for the servers with subs and retainers alone. Lets not even talk about the collectors additions, music, statues and all the other out of game purchases people make to the game. Basically you are telling me that SE needs people to pay double subs to run their servers?!
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  9. #189
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lathander81 View Post
    Still the point is they have more than enough to pay for the servers with subs and retainers alone.
    For the servers, maybe. Then there's the actual costs of production, design, implementation, MAYBE the occasional increase in manpower, music, copyrights for music, copyrights for characters, PR, actually producing physical copies of the game, sums required for their agreements with steam and the like...
    For the servers? Sure, they have enough (probably not but let's roll with it). But the game has a lot of other expanses. Those patches don't make themselves.
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  10. #190
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lathander81 View Post
    Right you are about that mount I almost forgot. Still the point is they have more than enough to pay for the servers with subs and retainers alone. Lets not even talk about the collectors additions, music, statues and all the other out of game purchases people make to the game. Basically you are telling me that SE needs people to pay double subs to run their servers?!
    And how much does it cost to operate FFXIV on a daily basis because I don't have a clue. I'm telling you want was told to us 4 years ago when Mog Station first came about. Now the question for everyone is, would you accept a sub price increase to do away with cash shops or leave it as is?

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    For the servers, maybe. Then there's the actual costs of production, design, implementation, MAYBE the occasional increase in manpower, music, copyrights for music, copyrights for characters, PR, actually producing physical copies of the game, sums required for their agreements with steam and the like...
    For the servers? Sure, they have enough (probably not but let's roll with it). But the game has a lot of other expanses. Those patches don't make themselves.
    Don't forget having to pay companies to actually produce statues, collector edition items, CD and Bluray music disc, books, etc...
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    Last edited by Dyvid; 12-27-2017 at 07:12 AM.

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