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  1. #1
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    Zojha's Avatar
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    Level boosters and story skip potions are not vanity items, [...]
    And to add to that: Neither are Retainers. Retainers are storage, market board slots and ventures, the latter of which is a source of ingame income (And not even a terrible one at that).

    Personally, I'm just sad that my subscription automatically pays for items and content I have absolutely no interest in, but I have to pay extra for items from the shop that I would actually use. I really don't need Ultimate content in my life, I'd rather get a free vanity item a year or sth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    P2W necessitates a winning state.
    And a winning state necessitates a competition that separates winners from losers. Which in turn means that swathes of PvE content cannot be P2W ever, because most of the content is non-competitive and any rules, winning conditions or states would have to be set by yourself as the game doesn't set any. Such may include but are not limited to being the first in the world to clear content X, having the prettiest carbuncle glamour, getting from 1 to 70 first, getting the furthest in PotD solo or being the first across a set track in Shirogane. You can put anything as win condition here and thus make anything P2W if you feel so inclined.
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    Last edited by Zojha; 12-26-2017 at 08:18 PM.

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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Lho Polaali
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jxnibbles View Post
    Also why is all the Carbuncle stuff only ever in the Cash Shop?
    most of the housing items are craftable tho? I have a carby house i made myself inside and out.

    The items are not only vanity items.. The items have stats like +2 str +2 Int. It does not matter if the stats are small they should be removed and then we can call it just "Vanity Items."
    items that only give you a kick when you're under 30 or so. Like said before in this thread it doesn't affect endgame. No one buys those thinga for their stats
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    Jxnibbles's Avatar
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    Aimori Duciel
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    most of the housing items are craftable tho? I have a carby house i made myself inside and out.



    items that only give you a kick when you're under 30 or so. Like said before in this thread it doesn't affect endgame. No one buys those thinga for their stats
    It sadly does not matter if it is the Cash Shop to me anyway. Stats need to be removed. The same thing with Job boost, Msq skips, Retainer Job boost. If the Cash Shop was supposed to be Vanity only these should be removed.

    I really don't mind the Cash Shop but I hate when people say its vanity only. No its not however small the stats its P2W.
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    Last edited by Jxnibbles; 12-26-2017 at 07:11 PM.

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    Irvy Ryath
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    I have no issue paying for ingame item with real money on F2P game, but with the current FFXIV's situation (B2P with subscription and only the minimal amount of content spoon-feeded every three + month) I find releasing such item in the cash shop isn't normal and indicates a lack of respect toward the customers.

    The current FFXIV's experience isn't any better to those of random F2P MMO games and yet the amount of cash shop items grows by the day.
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    Last edited by Stanelis; 12-26-2017 at 07:19 PM.

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    Light Khah
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    Dear SE, I hate you.

    You started the cash shop to give us old event items and yet we get more and more exclusive mounts, pets and emotes in there that never ever touched the game before that. Why not make it an event price instead of giving us just another head that barely anyone would wear?

    Honestly just selling the wedding and the fantasia should get you enough of an income and since SB the jump potions too..I had one last bit of hope that you would be sensitive enough to finally give us such unique mounts ingame but yet we will just get re-colors for the next primal and maybe instead of a couch we will get a desk as a mount..

    Also that much money for such a short emote...I just cant..
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Hyomin Park
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Dear SE, I hate you.

    I had one last bit of hope that you would be sensitive enough to finally give us such unique mounts ingame but yet we will just get re-colors for the next primal and maybe instead of a couch we will get a desk as a mount..
    They actually did give us some “unique mounts” in-game: Magitek Predator, the Rival Wings mount, the Christmas Bear... the first may be a reskin of a mob/mob-turned-mount, but the Christmas Bear is actually a brand new model—it is not the same as the WAR tank mounts.

    Also that much money for such a short emote...I just cant..
    I can agree that the emote is not worth $7. There are certainly some items on there that are overpriced—I can agree with that. But what I do is either decide if my want is worth the cost, or just wait until a sale rolls around.

    The only emotes I can argue are worth the price are the Eastern Dance and the Play Dead emote—the former because it’s so elaborate and is persistent, and the latter because it is different across each race (and gender).
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 12-27-2017 at 12:02 AM.
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    Player LeeraSorlan's Avatar
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    Leera Katz
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    They actually did give us some “unique mounts” in-game: Magitek Predator, the Rival Wings mount, the Christmas Bear... the first may be a reskin of a mob/mob-turned-mount, but the Christmas Bear is actually a brand new model—it is not the same as the WAR tank mounts.



    I can agree that the emote is not worth $7. There are certainly some items on there that are overpriced—I can agree with that. But what I do is either decide if my want is worth the cost, or just wait until a sale rolls around.
    ehh bear animation is the same between the war and the event one, so can be argued a bit there, but it does come with a special, so meh..adding to this point, even the reskin was a new mount at one point, the bird, while reskinned, was a new modeled mount when the first came out, same for a dog, a horse, etc.a broom, a rocket motor thingy..a dragon...

    We have gotten dozens of unique mounts, they even gave us a recolor of a mount they put on the mogstation, so it felt like we had the option of choosing (bennu vs Zu) the amount of mounts on the mogstation are actually suprisingly low, i figured theyd have went way out of hand at this point, but meh.


    ithat being said....my only gripe is the reskin for the same price...i bought the carbuncle, so heh, guess im part of the problem...but i wanted them both..however..im not going to pay 24$ more for what is essentially a dye. So im a bit bummed, a mount that is far to expensive as it is, even if i bought it..feels kind of cheap imo
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    Last edited by LeeraSorlan; 12-27-2017 at 12:07 AM.

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    Mirn Armaya
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    But hey, at least you can dye the costumes.
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    Vivi Ku'ro
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    I glad Carby mount it's not item code from carbuncle hats. I was really scared for some time after they dig out carbuncle mounts and attire. I really don't care about them being a cash shop item. I can live without them (that's not true), they don't give me any advantage in the game and I still have some pretty mounts from the game for "free". You guys gives few F2P games price as an example but you ignored price from the most "biggest" and "oldest" MMO - World of Warcraft where mounts cost around 25$/20 euro. Final Fantasy XIV receive a lot of attention and new players after SB release and we got few price rise because of that. Our crying about it gonna change nothing. We still get a lot of free stuff. It would be great if we get such item for free but be realistic here - it not gonna happens.
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Found some clips of the emote on reddit.

    Female Au Ra
    Female Roegadyn
    Male Miqo'te
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