Discrimination of certain jobs - your opinion

[AmaSagahl]

Sam has no utulity and I rather take a good sam over a bad drg with utility anyday. A bad DRG (low dps) and utility doesnt do more than a good sam over the drg.

You seem to be a bit of a unicorn with that thinking though, compared to the overall mindset of the community right now. I agree though, I even tried to make that point to a person in PF today, and for some reason got immediately called out for 'trolling' (he couldn't even make a distinction between trolling and a discussion between two adults) and got told 'no one wants SAM. If a SAM wants a fflog run, then they set up their own party'.

I guess he wanted a bloated dps log run. His spots weren't filling for an hour though.

[akaneakki]

I guess he wanted a bloated dps log run. His spots weren't filling for an hour though.

To be fair,there is a large amount of SAM players but majority are pretty bad at it. RDM and SAm is one of the easiest classes in game with less punishment compare to the rest. I don't mind a SAM in my group, but if I had to choose a 5k sam vs a 4,8k drg the drg would be easily taken over the SAM. Like some people mentioned already, samurai has insane aggro and has no aggro skill reset, elusive jump is so good for both uptime and aggro reset at the same time in certain fights. This helps the tank dps increase as well, since they mostlikely don't need to use aggro combo.

[Miksu]

Furthermore, some of the blame lies with how the jobs are designed. As akaneakki referenced this issue, some jobs are just safer than others. If you fail as a samurai, you fail completely because you only bring DPS. If you don't particularly perform up to par as a dragoon, at the very least you are bringing up the performance of the rest of the group. Now whether the group can make up for the disparity of your DPS by breaking their limits (heh) depends, but the point stands. It is safer to bet on an average dragoon then it is on a samurai that can range from bad to godlike. Especially if the SAM curve is higher on the bottom end.

[AmaSagahl]

To be fair,there is a large amount of SAM players but majority are pretty bad at it. RDM and SAm is one of the easiest classes in game with less punishment compare to the rest. I don't mind a SAM in my group, but if I had to choose a 5k sam vs a 4,8k drg the drg would be easily taken over the SAM. Like some people mentioned already, samurai has insane aggro and has no aggro skill reset, elusive jump is so good for both uptime and aggro reset at the same time in certain fights. This helps the tank dps increase as well, since they mostlikely don't need to use aggro combo.

I disagree with your evaluation of job difficulty. A monkey can play RDM - it's by far the easiest job right now. Samurai on the other hand might not be as difficult as NIN, but you still can screw up your dps with a lot of little things (even overshooting your Kenki constantly by 5). It takes a lot of dedication, practice and knowledge to not just be average or good, but outstanding. Which applies not just to the Samurai job.

But again, we are kind of circling back to the point with what you are saying about the lack of utility and damage: If you want SAM to be an asset and as valuable as other jobs like DRG or NIN without giving it a buff, then it needs more damage. If I look at the fflogs of o1s I can hardly see a difference between SAM, BLM and MCH.

1) 6.367k (SAM)
2) 6.355 (BLM)
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5) 6.264 (MCH)