Casturm Merdidiam/The preatorium need to change or go.

[HoodRat]

I agree it's not probably not worth redesigning the dungeons, but they could find small little ways to alleviate.

They did alleviate it by making main scenario roulette, ironically this seems to be what people are complaining about the most since it's causing an "epidemic of speed runners" (I guarantee you most of the "speedrunners" in there aren't even good at whatever job they're playing). If they get rid of the roulette, then these dungeons will just have the problem Aetherochemical Research Facility had: no one ever ran it because there was no reason to outside of story. So, instead of having multiple threads about how people had their dungeon experience ruined by people "speedrunning," we'll have multiple threads about how people can't even get into the dungeon in the first place.

[RylaBee]

Not sure if everyone remembers, but when you get to the end of 2.X's second MSQ (astral), there is an actual warning in the game that a ton of custscenes are about to happen.

They could do something similar - A warning for both of these dungeons that a lot of cutscenes exist and that it is therefore recommended to go with a group of friends, or party finder, or mentors from the novice network. They could also explain how to watch the custscenes in the inn (as let's face it a lot of people who haven't been using it might have forgotten how it works).

This is an excellent idea. This would take minimum developers effort - just some pop-up messages - but provide much needed warning and guidance to new players.

[Braneric]

CM/Prae has needed to go ever since SE realized that cutscene-heavy instanced dungeons were a bad idea. However, given the choice between fixing older content vs. creating new content and since they clearly don't have the resources to do both, new content will win every time unfortunately.

[SilentVoice]

honestly, i remember when i was a newbie back in 2k14 and my first battle class i leveled was Paladin. When i firs attempted at Castrum Meridianum, i was left with trauma. I just had to get into party of jerks with a Warrior no less, whole group been complaining that i can't do a job of MT properly and Warrior took over after 1st boss, while expressing his annoyance with whole affair. and then they began complaining that i was slow, they need me to OT ads, someone was asking to kick me. In Praetorium happened almost the same, especially since i couldn't understand when we skip trash, when we don't, people were angry at me.
Since that time i was extremely afraid of tanking and switched to SCH. only later on, when i got more experienced in the game, i resumed going as tank, mostly for raid with people from my raid community.
All in all it isn't how game, especially casual must-do content should work, it demoralizes new players, some i am sure could decide ti even quit playing after such horrible experience.

[Frizze]

honestly, i remember when i was a newbie back in 2k14 and my first battle class i leveled was Paladin. When i firs attempted at Castrum Meridianum, i was left with trauma. I just had to get into party of jerks with a Warrior no less, whole group been complaining that i can't do a job of MT properly and Warrior took over after 1st boss, while expressing his annoyance with whole affair. and then they began complaining that i was slow, they need me to OT ads, someone was asking to kick me. In Praetorium happened almost the same, especially since i couldn't understand when we skip trash, when we don't, people were angry at me.
Since that time i was extremely afraid of tanking and switched to SCH. only later on, when i got more experienced in the game, i resumed going as tank, mostly for raid with people from my raid community.
All in all it isn't how game, especially casual must-do content should work, it demoralizes new players, some i am sure could decide ti even quit playing after such horrible experience.

That sounds horrible. The key there is that you had jerks in your party in addition to the poor dungeon design. These days they(the jerks) are more likely to leave any new people behind and just do the dungeon without them because the high level sync allows them to bypass the need for a full group - which leads to a different set of problems and dozens of forum posts. So... progress? Not really.

[Sylvain]

They'd need to make an Ai do it with you

[Akor]

They need to cap that dungeon at level 50 and at IL 50 to prevent people from doing it. If that concept desnt appeal to you, shouldn't be playing story driven MMO.

Well than welcome to +1hour que times. No one will bother to do that dungeon if u cant speed run it.

Cant wait to hear ppl saying why is this dungeon so hard why it takes so long to clear it.

[Khanscott]

Make those two instances single player while cutting them out of duty roulette completely. Problem solved. Its the only way for new people to actually enjoy the story as intended. Let the idiots bleat about "muh tomes" all they like, CM/Prae are outliers and there is no point in lumping them in with the herd.

[ChameleonMS]

Changes are coming in 4.2

Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XL

We'll be making adjustments to the main scenario dungeons, so that new players can enjoy them without worrying. It may extend the duration of the dungeon; however, we have increased the rewards as well.

[Claire_Pendragon]

Congratulations on making thread #10,000 on this exact issue and with the exact same complaints as all the 9999 threads before.
Yes, we know. Yes, we all agree that the problems mentioned are indeed problems.

Considering that this has been a problem since approximately the day after the very first group made it through those instances, and that SE still haven't changed them despite complaints ever since - I very much doubt anything will change this time either.

Congratulations on making reply #10,000 on this exact issue and with the exact same complaints as all the 9999 threads before.
Yes, we know. Yes, we all agree that the complaints of problems mentioned are indeed problems.

(I had to do it.)