SE: if it aint broke, dont fix it (War)

[Chrono_Rising]

This! Consider how easy it is to play DRK and PLD in a raid setting. Their rotations are simple and relatively forgiving. One bad step in your IRzerk phase, and you've got a wonky 5 rage you can't do anything with. That's punshing enough as it is, ontop of the fact you lost a zerk'd fell cleave.

The only thing I see making this better would be making Fell Cleave 100% stronger during IR I guess.

[Crater]

Its disingenuous to pretend that you can play as poorly on DRK or PLD as you would have to play on WAR to end up with 25 BG and the DRK or PLD would just walk away with some minor loss that you don't care about.

We're talking about a mistake like "I popped Delirium even though the boss is going to jump away before the base Blood Weapon duration runs out, and the phase transition lasts so long that I can drop Darkside and get my MP back with Refresh". It's hard to mess up that badly. And the DRK who does that loses something like 470 potency, compared to the WAR losing a 650 potency Cleave and getting 100 of that potency back from the free Onslaught.

[Yamimarik]

Take this as you will.. but idk if it's a buff.... it sounded like a nerf according to what they were saying in the Reddit Discord translations.

Next Job Adjustments.
BLM is one of the mentioned job (and their priority apparently)
Apparently they received a lot of complaints about the usability and the utility
WAR is also mentioned

They will only go into detail in Part II of the PLL
Yoshida just saw a comment saying WAR is too strong
but Yoshida refrained from commenting further

This was taken from the Discord server under the translations. I'm sure it's on Reddit somewhere. Anyway, idk how accurate or inaccurate their translations are, just shared since it's uncertain atm if it's really going to be a buff. Also I had the impression that maybe there was more to the job adjustments, but since we didn't see them go into detail just yet... 2nd part of the LL should clear it up (hopefully.)

[Aana]

The only thing I see making this better would be making Fell Cleave 100% stronger during IR I guess.

I hadn't actually considered that. Instead of half gauge cost, all gauge actions do 2x damage. That's almost brilliant in its simplicity. Virtually no change to any balance whatsoever, gets the hulk smash impact FC had in HW back. No increase to overall damage. Easier to use.

Actually on 2nd thought, I guess it would be a slight buff. Instead of 6FCs +maim+Path you would get 3FC, Maim, path and still have 3gcds left for another 30 gauge at best. Then again the upheaval and 2 onslaughts would consume that 30 gauge anyway and its not enough for another FC without giving up upheaval so that's a no go. But you would get a more damage from the extra 3 gcds of combo regardless.
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Take this as you will.. but idk if it's a buff.... it sounded like a nerf according to what they were saying in the Reddit Discord translations.





This was taken from the Discord server under the translations. I'm sure it's on Reddit somewhere. Anyway, idk how accurate or inaccurate their translations are, just shared since it's uncertain atm if it's really going to be a buff. Also I had the impression that maybe there was more to the job adjustments, but since we didn't see them go into detail just yet... 2nd part of the LL should clear it up (hopefully.)

The plot thickens.

[Chrono_Rising]

I hadn't actually considered that. Instead of half gauge cost, all gauge actions do 2x damage. That's almost brilliant in its simplicity. Virtually no change to any balance whatsoever, gets the hulk smash impact FC had in HW back. No increase to overall damage. Easier to use.

Actually on 2nd thought, I guess it would be a slight buff. Instead of 6FCs +maim+Path you would get 3FC, Maim, path and still have 3gcds left for another 30 gauge at best. Then again the upheaval and 2 onslaughts would consume that 30 gauge anyway and its not enough for another FC without giving up upheaval so that's a no go. But you would get a more damage from the extra 3 gcds of combo regardless.
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The plot thickens.

As stated, double guage actions, it is most certainly a buff (think upheaval at double damage oGCD), but not game breaking still.

I don't wish nerfs on warrior, I wish buffs on dark.

[Kabooa]

As stated, double guage actions, it is most certainly a buff (think upheaval at double damage oGCD), but not game breaking still.

I don't wish nerfs on warrior, I wish buffs on dark.

How would this factor in to the GCDs it frees up?

[Chrono_Rising]

How would this factor in to the GCDs it frees up?

It is a major buff if it doubles BG, it is a slight buff if it just doubles combo. Personally I think Warrior could be a little higher with its dps to separate it a bit from paladin, not ridiculous, but some.

[DRKoftheAzure]

My initial reaction on the "official" translation when they said usability of warriors was "Y-you said dark knight wrong..."

[konpachizaraki]

The only thing I see making this better would be making Fell Cleave 100% stronger during IR I guess.

or make it 50% stronger but change the cooldown to 60 seconds
that way it will line up with berserk perfectly

[Chrono_Rising]

or make it 50% stronger but change the cooldown to 60 seconds
that way it will line up with berserk perfectly

I feel like if it was the same CD as as Berserk there would be no reason to not just bake the effect into berserk itself. Why press two buttons?