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    I might not be well informed but this only affects NA ISPs and servies in murica?
    Meaning someone in EU shouldnt see any affects at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinuko View Post
    I might not be well informed but this only affects NA ISPs and servies in murica?
    Meaning someone in EU shouldnt see any affects at all?
    Effectively, atleast by the sound of things you're absolutely right.
    However, given how much of a powerhouse the US is on the worldwide scene, there is precedent to think that this could grow to other countries, and rapidly once the ISP's either begin lobbying there, or people start making the arguments that the "sky didnt fall" at the notion of NN getting revoked
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    Lessee here... 2015, we were right in the middle of HW, weren’t we? I’m gonna guess that the game’s performance will behave as it did around then.

    I mean, I see all kinds of articles saying that certain sites could be throttled or blocked, but I can only think of two occasions where that happened: Verizon was caught throttling torrents a few years ago, but to be fair, the primary purpose of those torrents was piracy, and Comcast was bullying Netflix into paying more so they wouldn’t get throttled. Comcast always have been shameless dirtpigs though.
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    Comcast was one of the biggest instigators of why NN got reclassified as title 2 though, i.e a utility. NN was part of the 1996 telecoms act (or whatever it was called) It was just under more relaxed classification. Imagine like the ESRB for example, and what is currently happening with lootboxes. The ESRB is failing its consumer protection duties under the eyes of some law makers so they are starting to step in. Title 2 was just the law makers stepping in. NN being something that magically popped outta thin air is one of the biggest misconceptions/deflections being tossed around by the pro-repeal propaganda machine.

    As for how it affects those outside the US, namely as someone else said it could lead to a bad precedent. Also access from abroad to US base services could see slow down/ taxation. That said, I do not think other 1st world countries woulda blatantly ignored 80%+ of their population on an issue like this, even within the US government there were those asking for a delay on this vote until certain things were cleared and they were ignored with no consequence. I do not see that happening somewhere like the UK for example, to say the USA is in a bad way atm is an understatement ... we could give places like Russia a run for their money now.
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    Last edited by Gumbercules; 12-15-2017 at 05:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinuko View Post
    I might not be well informed but this only affects NA ISPs and servies in murica?
    Meaning someone in EU shouldnt see any affects at all?
    For EU countries, the European Comission is committed to net neutrality: https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-...net-neutrality.
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    I think in the US the ISP's will mostly go after tech companies rather than end users
    Kind of a mobster shake down style "want your content to come across smoothly? give us a cut"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihility View Post
    I think in the US the ISP's will mostly go after tech companies rather than end users
    Kind of a mobster shake down style "want your content to come across smoothly? give us a cut"
    The companies will not just take it, they will forward their cost to the consumers. If the ISP's demands more money from Square Enix or companies like Netflix, then those companies will increase their subscription fee, heck we might see more cuts to ingame items and more exclusive mog station items.

    In the end the consumers in the USA will pay alot more then they are right now. I can only hope that the court will stop this and that this will not have a domino effect on other countries.
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    Wouldn't/Could the congress go against the vote results?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinuko View Post
    I might not be well informed but this only affects NA ISPs and servies in murica?
    Meaning someone in EU shouldnt see any affects at all?
    Not directly within the EU but it is entirely possible that US based ISPs could restrict access from the US to EU sites affecting companies there. You might also see the US ISPs start requiring EU ISPs to pay for access to their networks or for high speed links. So from a regulatory standpoint US laws have no effect of how the EU operatates legally. From a business perspective that is an unknown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rinuko View Post
    Wouldn't/Could the congress go against the vote results?
    Yes they could but the current party in power, Republicans, primarily cater to big business so it is very unlikely anything will happen for the foreseeable future. They've had seven years to do something and haven't which should also say something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gumbercules View Post
    Comcast was one of the biggest instigators of why NN got reclassified as title 2 though, i.e a utility. NN was part of the 1996 telecoms act (or whatever it was called) It was just under more relaxed classification.
    And due to Verizon most of that law was shot down as far as the FCC being able to regulate it. So NN is in the law but not enforceable.
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    Last edited by Claviusnex; 12-15-2017 at 10:54 PM.

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    Unless ISPs are going to throttle your net to dialup speeds, you won't see a difference in FFXIV gameplay. The game literally uses a mere few kb/s to run. That's for gameplay. Patches may need to be smaller and less frequent. As bandwidth limits and speeds will make content patches unviable, requiring us to buy expansions via hardcopy again like we did for Early WoW and EQ.
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