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    We lost...How does not having Net Nutrality affect SE/XIV?

    Well I don't know, thought you guys would?
    Here what I know.
    FCC has voted to revoke Net Nutrality, 3/2
    Yes is looking bad....
    The next fight is on Court....
    Basically we losing until Court decided what to do.
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    Last edited by LastFireAce; 12-15-2017 at 04:49 AM.

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    With how it looks in other countries, most likely you'll pay for basic internet connection. (what you pay now)
    Then you pay to be allowed to access sites based on content.

    Example:

    All music related stuff, like itunes store, pandora
    All Video related stuff, like youtube, twitch
    All Social Media stuff, facebook, twitter
    All "call" related stuff, like skype
    All video game access, MMO etc

    Which is either $2~ a day, or something like $30~ a month for 1 of these categories, and if u want them all, a small discount of $130 on top of your normal internet cost.

    Then if you want a video to actually load. (if you have AT&T right now, you'll see how impossible it is to watch a youtube video in 240p, as it takes nearly 20 mins to load 5mins) you'll need to pay for your current speed, by another $10 most likely, or more.

    But, thats based on other countries, and what little I remember. I might have the numbers wrong, and I'm too lazy to look them up again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LastFireAce View Post
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    Nothing is going to happen with the repealed regulations at the moment. There are several steps that have to be done first, including going to court.

    Assuming that those regulations are successfully removed, I see nothing happening to FF14.

    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
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    I keep seeing these examples of pricing tiers and packages, and there is no context applied at all.

    • What is the infrastructure like in these countries?
    • Are the ISPs government owned or heavily regulated by the government?
    • How many ISPs within the country? Do those ISPs compete? Can the ISPs share their traffic over other ISPs method of transportation (lines, towers, etc.)?
    • What are the regulatory rules for data within those countries (example: are you allowed to have unlimited data or are you capped)?

    As someone who is a shill for the ISP, and works for one of them, I can state that context is important to when stating these tiers and packages. Some of the countries that have these types of plans have them because of government regulations and/or infrastructure. For example, when dealing with countries like China, who have per-byte type plans, the infrastructure within the country is still poor compared to the USA. There is also the fact that the Chinese government owns the utilities there.

    I can see an ISP try to pull what you are stating within the USA, and get reamed for it. Ever since we could have access here to the internet here in the USA, you just paid for bandwidth. I can’t see this being changed unless an ISP wanted to commit suicide.

    You can trust me *puts on jack boots* that nothing is going to *puts on riot gear* affect your *puts on obvious Nazi metaphorical patches onto company uniform* gaming experience on *grabs paper containing addresses of all customers* FF14 *leaves to take everyone’s first-born child/cats*.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrasweettea View Post
    I can see an ISP try to pull what you are stating within the USA, and get reamed for it. Ever since we could have access here to the internet here in the USA, you just paid for bandwidth. I can’t see this being changed unless an ISP wanted to commit suicide.

    Regional monopolies give some of us little choice. I absolutely loathe my current ISP because of constant price increases for the same service year after year. There are no other high-speed options in the vast majority of my state so I am stuck with this money-grabbing company that hasn't had adequate competition in years.

    Funny enough, they are one of the main backers of the FCC repealing Net Neutrality.

    There is no suicide for the company to commit because there are no options for us as consumers. The could do whatever they wanted. Our options would be to fork over the cash or have terrible internet.
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    Last edited by Chortle; 12-16-2017 at 01:21 AM. Reason: emphasis

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    The world is going to end tomorrow!

    You were able to play before 2015 .. yes?

    At most the sub prices of streaming services like Netflix will increase (and mmo's like this too).

    QQ-ing here is not going to do anything about it, best is to let your local authorities and stuff know you are unhappy and I've also heard that 20 states (might be more by now) have this so joined forces and are against go support them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhaerron View Post
    The world is going to end tomorrow!

    You were able to play before 2015 .. yes?

    At most the sub prices of streaming services like Netflix will increase (and mmo's like this too).

    QQ-ing here is not going to do anything about it, best is to let your local authorities and stuff know you are unhappy and I've also heard that 20 states (might be more by now) have this so joined forces and are against go support them!
    Or you will see companies start to bundle internet like cable. The you could play before 2015 is bullshit that doesn’t stop Internet providers from being greedy and wanting more money. This whole thing is about greed nothing else, Companies wouldn’t care if there wasn’t a way they could profit off of it. However, You are right about no point in complaining on here and go join the effort, no one is going to check the ffxiv forums for your thoughts on the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhaerron View Post
    QQ-ing here is not going to do anything about it, best is to let your local authorities and stuff know you are unhappy and I've also heard that 20 states (might be more by now) have this so joined forces and are against go support them!

    Informing others is always beneficial even if it is through a video game forum. I find it is crucial information especially for gamers to be made aware of.

    Contact your state representatives: https://www.house.gov/representatives#state-alabama

    Contact your state senator: https://www.senate.gov/general/conta...nators_cfm.cfm

    Keep track of their votes!!

    Make sure they know that their job is on the line with this vote. Their job is to be the voice of the people. The VAST majority of consumers do not want to repeal Net Neutrality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chortle View Post
    Regional monopolies give some of us little choice.
    Am I the only one who finds it ironic that this is an issue in the US of all places? <.<'

    The USA, the "Land of Competition", propagating "Free Markets" across the world... has regional monopolies. For someone across the ocean not intimately familiar with the situation, that sounds somewhat odd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Am I the only one who finds it ironic that this is an issue in the US of all places? <.<'

    The USA, the "Land of Competition", propagating "Free Markets" across the world... has regional monopolies. For someone across the ocean not intimately familiar with the situation, that sounds somewhat odd.
    Most American companies are only for "Free Markets" as long as there is no competition. The reality is they all rather be monopolies where they can freely control their market.
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