How does Net Nutrality affect SE/XIV?

[Claire_Pendragon]

Your ISP already gives you options of "speeds" to pay for as is. why would they suddenly offer an even FASTER option for more after NN is removed? (It's going to be the same speed, but at a higher price)

[Reinha]

This game company charges extra for inventory space they themselves are keeping intentionally limited. And people pay it. If ISPs can do the same with bandwidth I bet they will.

[Gumbercules]

what we will see happen is more than likely something akin to a "forced" VPN. The question is if it comes at a per "category" basis or by company/game. For example you might need a bnet package then a SE package. One major misconception is that those that were ok with thsi repeal tend to fall on "well the internet was ok before NN!" the problem with that is NN has been a part of the infrastructure in the USA since 1996, predatory practices by the likes of Comcast are what prompted their reclassification to title 2 ... that is it, literally all that happened in 2014.

Ajit pie, pretty much gutted the department he was put in charge of, passing the puck to the FTC .... which his bosses and fellow lobbyist cronies are, as we speak, trying to gut in a case by ATT. It will get worse than it is right now, I honestly do not know how much worse though and if this 2 prong attack succeeds the sky is the limit. (also keep in mind that as a foreign company SE might be subject to further taxation that could potentially lead to increases in sub costs/removal of services)

[Rinuko]

I might not be well informed but this only affects NA ISPs and servies in murica?
Meaning someone in EU shouldnt see any affects at all?

[Lazaruz]

I might not be well informed but this only affects NA ISPs and servies in murica?
Meaning someone in EU shouldnt see any affects at all?

Effectively, atleast by the sound of things you're absolutely right.
However, given how much of a powerhouse the US is on the worldwide scene, there is precedent to think that this could grow to other countries, and rapidly once the ISP's either begin lobbying there, or people start making the arguments that the "sky didnt fall" at the notion of NN getting revoked

[Taika]

I might not be well informed but this only affects NA ISPs and servies in murica?
Meaning someone in EU shouldnt see any affects at all?

For EU countries, the European Comission is committed to net neutrality: https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-...net-neutrality.

[Claviusnex]

I might not be well informed but this only affects NA ISPs and servies in murica?
Meaning someone in EU shouldnt see any affects at all?

Not directly within the EU but it is entirely possible that US based ISPs could restrict access from the US to EU sites affecting companies there. You might also see the US ISPs start requiring EU ISPs to pay for access to their networks or for high speed links. So from a regulatory standpoint US laws have no effect of how the EU operatates legally. From a business perspective that is an unknown.

Wouldn't/Could the congress go against the vote results?

Yes they could but the current party in power, Republicans, primarily cater to big business so it is very unlikely anything will happen for the foreseeable future. They've had seven years to do something and haven't which should also say something.

Comcast was one of the biggest instigators of why NN got reclassified as title 2 though, i.e a utility. NN was part of the 1996 telecoms act (or whatever it was called) It was just under more relaxed classification.

And due to Verizon most of that law was shot down as far as the FCC being able to regulate it. So NN is in the law but not enforceable.

[Pondera]

Lessee here... 2015, we were right in the middle of HW, weren’t we? I’m gonna guess that the game’s performance will behave as it did around then.

I mean, I see all kinds of articles saying that certain sites could be throttled or blocked, but I can only think of two occasions where that happened: Verizon was caught throttling torrents a few years ago, but to be fair, the primary purpose of those torrents was piracy, and Comcast was bullying Netflix into paying more so they wouldn’t get throttled. Comcast always have been shameless dirtpigs though.

[Senliten]

Lessee here... 2015, we were right in the middle of HW, weren’t we? I’m gonna guess that the game’s performance will behave as it did around then.

I mean, I see all kinds of articles saying that certain sites could be throttled or blocked, but I can only think of two occasions where that happened: Verizon was caught throttling torrents a few years ago, but to be fair, the primary purpose of those torrents was piracy, and Comcast was bullying Netflix into paying more so they wouldn’t get throttled. Comcast always have been shameless dirtpigs though.

Left one out, People of the State of NY vs TWC
Which oddly enough, involved Riot games as one of the Plaintiffs.

Just gonna uhh.. leave this snippet from This court summons here on why this is big deal for all of us, and no not just Leauge players.

329. It was not until Riot Games agreed to pay Spectrum-TWC for access to its
subscribers, that Spectrum-TWC agreed to connect its ports to Riot Games. Prior to this,
Spectrum-TWC deprived its subscribers of reliable access to online content as promised.

This line alone, explains just why people are fighting to keep NN in place, and what can happen with it no longer being around.

[Gumbercules]

Comcast was one of the biggest instigators of why NN got reclassified as title 2 though, i.e a utility. NN was part of the 1996 telecoms act (or whatever it was called) It was just under more relaxed classification. Imagine like the ESRB for example, and what is currently happening with lootboxes. The ESRB is failing its consumer protection duties under the eyes of some law makers so they are starting to step in. Title 2 was just the law makers stepping in. NN being something that magically popped outta thin air is one of the biggest misconceptions/deflections being tossed around by the pro-repeal propaganda machine.

As for how it affects those outside the US, namely as someone else said it could lead to a bad precedent. Also access from abroad to US base services could see slow down/ taxation. That said, I do not think other 1st world countries woulda blatantly ignored 80%+ of their population on an issue like this, even within the US government there were those asking for a delay on this vote until certain things were cleared and they were ignored with no consequence. I do not see that happening somewhere like the UK for example, to say the USA is in a bad way atm is an understatement ... we could give places like Russia a run for their money now.