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  1. #61
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    Didn't see a whole lot of math on the subject but I was bored so here is a little.

    For Level Summoner 66:
    Clearing any set of floors between 51-90 yields 583,200 exp
    Clearing floor 91 - 100 yields 842,000 exp
    Doing a run of Bardam's Mettle yields 2,176,073 exp

    Chain running floor 51-60 is about an average clear time of 16 minutes
    EXP/Min = 36,450

    Running POTD 51-100 was a total of 92 minutes including queue times, roughly 18.4 minutes average per set
    EXP/Min = 34,513

    Queuing for Bardam's and finishing the dungeon took 43 minutes (20 minute queue, 23 minute clear time).
    EXP/Min = 50,606

    Some notes, I did nothing while waiting for the dungeon queue so if one were industrious enough, they could do FATEs or something to bump up the experience per minute. In order for the dungeon run to roughly equal running POTD 51-60, you would have to wait in queue for 37 minutes without doing anything. Alternatively if you could cut down POTD 51-60 to 11 minutes per run, that would equal my dungeon run.

    My clear times of POTD for the 51-100 set not including queue times were, 16, 15, 15, 17, and 20. For the most part, it was different people in my groups with minimal pomander usage. If you could cut down on queue times for the higher floors, 51-100 would begin to outpace 51-60 spam.

    I am more surprised that POTD experience gain is so little compared to running it in the upper 50's. Around level 58 completing a non floor 50 or 100 floor set grants something around 830,000 exp while floor 50 and 100 grant around 1,300,000 exp.

    In conclusion, POTD is not the best experience gain after 60, dungeon running definitely pulls ahead.
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    Last edited by Bumdogs; 12-15-2017 at 06:11 AM. Reason: because I spell good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumdogs View Post
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    Applause to you, this is exactly what I was hoping to find at the start of this thread. Based on your 20 minute queue time, I assume you were on a DPS job too, driving the point home even more. If one was on a tank or healer, this wouldn't even be a question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirlia View Post
    Applause to you, this is exactly what I was hoping to find at the start of this thread. Based on your 20 minute queue time, I assume you were on a DPS job too, driving the point home even more. If one was on a tank or healer, this wouldn't even be a question.
    Oops. Yes this was all on my Summoner. Definitely no question for tanks and healers with very short queues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiamondOrion View Post
    you are so wrong when my PLD hit 60 I had done all my dailies, weeklies, and roulette's to get there the next dungeon is at 61 and I had 4.8 million exp to go. You want me to do fates? ughhh leves? ughhh no I would rather do fun potd's for good music, stress less playing, and varying team mates, and i spam emotes for fun. I would tell any new person and have on faeries Novice network only to get kicked starting a Kicking war.
    Ok...let me address your points one at a time.First off, aside from the 'fun' factor as you put it, why are you using POTD as a PLD? You actually gain so much more experience in the same amount of time that you could run POTD 51-60 twice by running the level appropriate dungeon in SB. It was mentioned in another thread, but alliance roulettes literally give you millions of exp upon completion. For the information I just stated, that's not including the adventurer in need or daily bonus from queuing into it. You still gain more experience just by doing roulettes as tank thank you would using POTD.

    As far as you getting kicked is concerned, what you're saying in largely incorrect. Posting what you said on here is one thing, but posting it in the NN is definitely a no-no because it is most certainly the wrong information. Novice players should be more focused on doing MSQ, and then dailies. As I stated before, tanks should not be using POTD if they are only trying to level up. They're missing out on exp, to be honest. Healers, too. DPS should still be queuing for roulettes unless the queues are ridiculously long, like 30m. But with alliance roulettes, the wait is more than worth it.

    What you are posting on the forums in one thing, because people can debate you on it. If what you're posting here on the forums is the same thing that you're posting on the NN, then yeah, you are in the wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumdogs View Post
    In order for the dungeon run to roughly equal running POTD 51-60, you would have to wait in queue for 37 minutes without doing anything.
    sadly, I have been in that position too many times. 40 mins, 45+ mins. wondrous tails was out of the question for a long time, just about everything on the list saw you facing an hour queue. I've often ended up just getting sick of waiting and logged off having done zero but wait. The only saving grace has been the new alliance raid roulette.

    today, a friend and myself spent 20+ minutes waiting for deltascape before they had to leave - and the unlimited crystalloid is a whole 2 days old. Rabanastre, 30 minutes, even with the weapon upgrade now available.
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    My problem

    My biggest problem with PotD is that it teaches almost nothing about whatever class/job you're currently leveling. Sure, you can google rotations, and how to's for high end content, but at the end of the day you have to practice it yourself in order to get it down. If you're grinding to 70 with PotD you're not learning the basics on how to play the game, or even the more intricate elements to the game. PotD is such a snooze fest that, it's only really challenging when you're either by yourself or when someone hits every possible trap imaginable. The more challenging content is, the more it pushes players to explore what works for them, and slowly perfect what they play. Sure, you could level up faster with PotD (which, in of itself, is debatable) but you're learning nothing about how to play the actual game. I ask that you please refrain from spreading misinformation for new players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiXiQ View Post
    wondrous tails was out of the question for a long time
    If you haven't tried, PF is great for Wondrous Tails. Especially on the first couple of days you'll see all of the trials up for WT groups. Also, if you can get a small FC group together, you can unsync most of the content with ease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiamondOrion View Post
    Potd gives ----->You gain 583200 (+50%) gladiator experience points. and still the best resource to gain exp after 60.
    Blatant misinformation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bumdogs View Post
    Actual facts to disprove the above
    Thank you for taking the time! Great insight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You're good at the game? You're an elitist.
    You're using a parser to better yourself? Elitist.
    You're making suggestions on how someone can improve themselves? E l i t i s t.

    You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.

    This community astounds me at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cakekizyy View Post
    It's tanks and when I said dungeons I meant all duty finder stuff, though PotD is tolerable though always long queues for me.

    Currently they are a bit low for hunts.
    low as in Lv 30? if you're that low and you're never going to DF the only thing you can do is FATEs and PotD.

    Lv 60 PLD can kill Lv 69 hunt mobs.
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    Understandable.
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