I'm not sure what you want then. One ilm punch was cheap, not good; it affected SCH and SMN mostly, as the other jobs had garbage buffs up if they did. And you had to spam it with multiple monks because in HW you easily had 6 buffs up at a time. If you are arguing 3.0 was better since it had more abilities, but you didn't use most of them anyways, what exactly is the benefit it had?