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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan View Post
    is there a reason you are being so toxic? like are you really intentionally going into this persons posts just to hate on them?

    How pety is that really?


    Ive seen this user post often, and alot of it seems trolly and pointless, but this topic is perfectly fine and does nothing wrong. please direct your toxicity in the actual bad topics they create instead of pointlessly wasting your time replying in a topic that isnt even bad
    This...is toxic?

    >.>

    This? Really?

    There should be a most overused word award of the year cuz toxic seems to be thrown for just about anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    This...is toxic?

    >.>

    This? Really?

    There should be a most overused word award of the year cuz toxic seems to be thrown for just about anything.
    I think going into someones topic, knowing full well you dislike the user, just to post negativity to them is toxic, yes.


    Its not on the same level as what alot of people do, but its clearly flaming the topic creator for past experiences
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    There should be a most overused word award of the year cuz toxic seems to be thrown for just about anything.
    Think they're trying to make a new record for this thread alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    This...is toxic?

    >.>

    This? Really?

    There should be a most overused word award of the year cuz toxic seems to be thrown for just about anything.
    Sooooo much this. Toxic means absolutely nothing at this point because people apply it to situations like this.
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    Didn't see a whole lot of math on the subject but I was bored so here is a little.

    For Level Summoner 66:
    Clearing any set of floors between 51-90 yields 583,200 exp
    Clearing floor 91 - 100 yields 842,000 exp
    Doing a run of Bardam's Mettle yields 2,176,073 exp

    Chain running floor 51-60 is about an average clear time of 16 minutes
    EXP/Min = 36,450

    Running POTD 51-100 was a total of 92 minutes including queue times, roughly 18.4 minutes average per set
    EXP/Min = 34,513

    Queuing for Bardam's and finishing the dungeon took 43 minutes (20 minute queue, 23 minute clear time).
    EXP/Min = 50,606

    Some notes, I did nothing while waiting for the dungeon queue so if one were industrious enough, they could do FATEs or something to bump up the experience per minute. In order for the dungeon run to roughly equal running POTD 51-60, you would have to wait in queue for 37 minutes without doing anything. Alternatively if you could cut down POTD 51-60 to 11 minutes per run, that would equal my dungeon run.

    My clear times of POTD for the 51-100 set not including queue times were, 16, 15, 15, 17, and 20. For the most part, it was different people in my groups with minimal pomander usage. If you could cut down on queue times for the higher floors, 51-100 would begin to outpace 51-60 spam.

    I am more surprised that POTD experience gain is so little compared to running it in the upper 50's. Around level 58 completing a non floor 50 or 100 floor set grants something around 830,000 exp while floor 50 and 100 grant around 1,300,000 exp.

    In conclusion, POTD is not the best experience gain after 60, dungeon running definitely pulls ahead.
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    Last edited by Bumdogs; 12-15-2017 at 06:11 AM. Reason: because I spell good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumdogs View Post
    snip
    Applause to you, this is exactly what I was hoping to find at the start of this thread. Based on your 20 minute queue time, I assume you were on a DPS job too, driving the point home even more. If one was on a tank or healer, this wouldn't even be a question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirlia View Post
    Applause to you, this is exactly what I was hoping to find at the start of this thread. Based on your 20 minute queue time, I assume you were on a DPS job too, driving the point home even more. If one was on a tank or healer, this wouldn't even be a question.
    Oops. Yes this was all on my Summoner. Definitely no question for tanks and healers with very short queues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumdogs View Post
    In order for the dungeon run to roughly equal running POTD 51-60, you would have to wait in queue for 37 minutes without doing anything.
    sadly, I have been in that position too many times. 40 mins, 45+ mins. wondrous tails was out of the question for a long time, just about everything on the list saw you facing an hour queue. I've often ended up just getting sick of waiting and logged off having done zero but wait. The only saving grace has been the new alliance raid roulette.

    today, a friend and myself spent 20+ minutes waiting for deltascape before they had to leave - and the unlimited crystalloid is a whole 2 days old. Rabanastre, 30 minutes, even with the weapon upgrade now available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiXiQ View Post
    wondrous tails was out of the question for a long time
    If you haven't tried, PF is great for Wondrous Tails. Especially on the first couple of days you'll see all of the trials up for WT groups. Also, if you can get a small FC group together, you can unsync most of the content with ease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiamondOrion View Post
    Potd gives ----->You gain 583200 (+50%) gladiator experience points. and still the best resource to gain exp after 60.
    Blatant misinformation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bumdogs View Post
    Actual facts to disprove the above
    Thank you for taking the time! Great insight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You're good at the game? You're an elitist.
    You're using a parser to better yourself? Elitist.
    You're making suggestions on how someone can improve themselves? E l i t i s t.

    You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.

    This community astounds me at times.

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