House Payments

[Rinuko]

If we were to have an upkeep then its a rent. Then you would pay 0g for the plot and permits, just pay your "rent".

[Alleo]

No thank you, we dont even need more things that will punish those that got a house. The timer is already bad enough since you cant take a longer sub break without losing your house. Now on top of that we should pay a monthly fee? (Its not like SE would just destroy the timer if they implement that..they would probably keep both) What is if someone just saved all their Gil over a long time and finally bought their dream house (if a slot is free >_>') and cant pay the monthly fee? Not everyone is swimming in Gil and this would just make it an even more limited good..you will not punish those that sell the houses you will punish those that just genuinely want one.

I have quite some gil saved for an mansion and yet I probably would not be able to pay the fee over the time. Yes you can earn Gil in this game kinda easily but 1 million per month only for the rent is not easy money. On top of that I know of a lot of player that dont earn that much gil simply because they dont play the game hours of hours per week and might not gather and craft. Are those not allowed to do part of the content in this game? When I bought my small private house somewhere in ARR (which I still own and use today) I was literally broke after that. I had to loan Gil from an ingame friend to even buy it. So yes it might be surprising but not everyone is swimming in Gil, especially if you are only doing certain kind of content..it might be enough to somewhere down the line buy a small one but to maintain that monthly too?

We should not think about more and more stuff that will hurt house owners and possible owners..we should want SE to fix their mess of a system in a way that does not punish people. And having to pay Gil on top of your sub money to keep something that already cost a lot of Gil is just punishment. Its not like they still need Gil to buy the house itself or furnish it.

I mean would you be fine if they have high amount of monthly fees for PVP seasons, raids and other stuff in the game? Those might not be limited as housing but they are still content. One part of the game should not be so unfair just because SE decided to introduce such a flawed system..

In the end this will do nothing positive. Those that should be punished because they only buy houses to resell it would not be punished by this since they simply have enough Gil or charge it when selling and those that keep a house for the sake of having it (and using it) should be forced to pay Gil or other currencies because of the faulty system. At the same time the amount of payment is truly just subjective. Like others said if its too low why do it at all, if its too high you will not only get all the rage from the people that missed a house but also those that lost theirs because they could not pay it..thats not a good press. Also how would you weight the other currencies? Its not that easy to just say x amount of those and y amount of that..How many beast tribe quests do you need to do to pay it? How many saucer points? And on top of that you can buy quite a lot of stuff with the other currencies so just because some might not use them others do. (And you kinda force people into doing certain things that they dont want to just so they can continue to own their already purchased house)

And a small point about it being good for those that have to leave the game for a time: First the problem with the timer is that it punish those that either want to take a break or that have something happen. Having to pay a maintenance fee does not help any side. First people still need to pay their sub (otherwise this would make the system even worse than just the timer alone) thus if you want to take a break this would change nothing on that part on top of that they even need to get enough Gil to pay the break in advance and have enough left to pay for it when they come back. Those that have something happening in real life are also not truly helped with that. I mean the timer is bad for those that suddenly land in the hospital, cant get into it because of of some disasters and more. This stuff is normally not known in advance. So how would a rent help them? It would just be another annoyance on top of the timer.

[Infindox]

Definitely no. It hurts people way more then it'd help.

Right now I get on only for like an hour a day because of the holidays being busy at work, the patch lull, and catching up on other games. I get on, do what dailies I want, then bounce. Making that fee for upkeep would punish me for essicently having a life.

It would also punish people who saved up and now are broke. My next-door neighbor got her small next to (above? It's in Goblet) my medium during Kugane housing. So now, after saving and praying that a spot opens up, and getting it, you want her to now pay extra for getting lucky?

[Ilyrian]

It would also punish people who saved up and now are broke.

Was thinking the same – I know I was broke after I bought mine.
I'm thinking OP didn't manage to get a house so far? Not sure this would help them tbf.

[LusterlessNova]

My FC is currently owning a large house, and I would support this actually. No matter if playing alone or not, if the numbers are fair, active players won't have trouble paying. And sure. Multiple house owners have gil, but for how long if this system is in effect? Anything that can cut a hole in their pocket, no matter how small, is very welcomed in my opinion.
I support this.

[Ilyrian]

No matter if playing alone or not, if the numbers are fair, active players won't have trouble paying.

But why should they? You haven't really made that clear. Is it to discourage people buying houses? To what extent? Open them up for only the super-rich?
(The fact we are discussing a virtual currency isn't lost on me –*but it's an interesting topic nonetheless.)

[LusterlessNova]

I simply think that players who like/love their houses will take the time and effort to gather the needed gil, while house sellers and those who think of it as a "neat extra" will find themselves cornered eventually. Besides. Look at those suggested numbers and compare them to the buying price. The FC house cost me 50m. I'm a money maker and can save up gil. 1m per month would be easy. And if I fail, I know I can ask my FC buddies to help out. Those who live alone might consider looking for roommates if the costs get to high, giving housing access to some more people (sure not an own house, but this isn't bad either).
What I'm trying to say is that when you love something, you'll find ways. Gil isn't hard to get. Crafting, monster drops, treasure hunts, and so many more methods are out there.

[Abelfei]

I simply think that players who like/love their houses will take the time and effort to gather the needed gil, while house sellers and those who think of it as a "neat extra" will find themselves cornered eventually. Besides. Look at those suggested numbers and compare them to the buying price. The FC house cost me 50m. I'm a money maker and can save up gil. 1m per month would be easy.

How will people with multiple houses or selling houses be " cornered " by this? Most have hundreds of millions or over a billion and this wouldn't affect them at all other than having to do one more chore. If it's an easy fee for you to pay like you have suggested, then it will be even easier for those people, wouldn't you think?

[LusterlessNova]

Hm... You make a good point. It means it would depend on how many houses a seller (or just multiple owner) has on how much of a burden it would be. Currently having a house is like having a gold bar. It doesn't age and has a solid value. That and the demand makes them attractive to hoard and sell. But if a system like this comes into effect, it would be more like iron. Prone to rust, with which I mean it has to be sold before it's upkeep costs exceed it's sell price. Judging by the current prices, 3 months for small houses, around 12 for middle, and up to 50 for large ones. No idea what/if this would affect large and middle ones, but at least small ones wouldn't be so attractive to trade with anymore, likely resulting in more small houses being available for some time.

[Abelfei]

Hm... You make a good point. It means it would depend on how many houses a seller (or just multiple owner) has on how much of a burden it would be. Currently having a house is like having a gold bar. It doesn't age and has a solid value. That and the demand makes them attractive to hoard and sell. But if a system like this comes into effect, it would be more like iron. Prone to rust, with which I mean it has to be sold before it's upkeep costs exceed it's sell price. Judging by the current prices, 3 months for small houses, around 12 for middle, and up to 50 for large ones. No idea what/if this would affect large and middle ones, but at least small ones wouldn't be so attractive to trade with anymore, likely resulting in more small houses being available for some time.

Plus the sellers will just factor any of these repair/rent payments into their sale.