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    Well I got a lot to reply to, which feels like work, so how about a thought from another angle instead?
    So the common opinion is that the prices would rise, right? Let's say as example: To the at least 3-fold value (probably higher, just deal with it for now). I can't help but wonder, but isn't it against the terms of service to sell houses for large profit? Large isn't defined, sure, but wouldn't writing tickets help get houses off profit sellers if the prices go way over a reasonable price? Just wondering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LusterlessNova View Post
    I can't help but wonder, but isn't it against the terms of service to sell houses for large profit? Large isn't defined, sure, but wouldn't writing tickets help get houses off profit sellers if the prices go way over a reasonable price?
    The problem here is that most of the people buying don't care and are willing to pay and also everyone's definition of "large" is different, just like you said. You could write tickets, but how do you know it's happening without being related to the deal somehow? And then on top of that, then you'd be screwing over whoever you knew that clued you in on the deal. So in essence you took a deal that had 2 complying parties with no problems, made it your business and then created a problem out of it. House flipping is a problem, but not every sale is actually a "flip", and the buyer is usually excited to buy, which means 2 people are happy, the seller got the gil he wanted, and the buyer got their house. Every house deal I have heard of, albeit small or large money wise, has been a friend in game or aquaintance. So with that being said, odds are thats how most ppl hear of house selling, and then in turn if you report it, you're kind of putting that friend in a bad situation too. I'd say if it's not a deal your directly involved in to stay out.
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    None of this proposal is going to free up more housing or stop the resellers. All it will do is make it a pain for those players/FCs fortunate enough to already own a house. The problem is not that there are unused housed or plots which the demolition timer manages reasonably well. The problem is there isn't enough housing for those players that want it and there are no band-aids that will change that fact. SE has multiple options they could use to resolve the housing crisis but for whatever reason in the past they decided not to take any significant action. The only fix is for SE to step up and look at a permanent solution or nothing will really change.
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    This proposal is just going to drive RMT up the wall if the payment is via Gils. Then again, it also puts it as a rental system for the players and like the others that have commented before, it holds the players accountable to a certain amount of time to play. I highly doubt anyone will want that especially if they are going through something in real life. In all honesty, the sale of Stormblood and the record high number of average subscribers should already give SE enough revenue in order to expand and upgrade the servers to allow for more housing.

    Which we are getting, since the enormous blowout from the community on all languages. Regardless, we just have to wait for this Friday to see what they have in store. But most likely it is just more wards, with a lottery system or timed-purchase system in place so everyone does not need to login at 3am just to get the houses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VthMillion View Post
    Which we are getting, since the enormous blowout from the community on all languages. Regardless, we just have to wait for this Friday to see what they have in store. But most likely it is just more wards, with a lottery system or timed-purchase system in place so everyone does not need to login at 3am just to get the houses.
    I would not hold your breath were gonna hear the housing plan this Live letter, remeber there is 2 live letters before the patch this is live letter 1. As Yoshi has all ready said they don't wanna release info to early cause people will prepare

    So my guess if housing is mentioned in this letter it will be the basic info we have gotten thru interviews A- More wards to each city B= New way to buy them but not saying what..

    This live letter wil probly mostly be relic and glamuor related just my guess
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    you really want that player has to pay for the own house every month? xD holy moly.

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    then you can charge this "rent" on empty houses, not on houses used almost daily. I don't like the idea at all. we're paying RL money for the game, the mogstation is awash with overpriced stuff - SE can just front up with the goods as far as housing goes.
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    This hate towards wealthy players :comfy:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirch View Post
    This hate towards wealthy players :comfy:
    Where exactly are people hating on wealthy players? We are just not fine with the idea because it would only leave really wealthy players and RMT buyers to use the content. This does not mean that we dislike people for having the Gil. (I do have a big sum of Gil too but I would still not be able to handle big fees constantly) So if you feel attacked maybe point out where people truly attacked those with Gil? Most of our concerns are just for those that wont be able to pay it not on those who might but thats not hate..
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    I do not support a monthly fee of any kind for housing.
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