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    Tussin's Avatar
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    Zajeel Zugunruhe
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    lots of people dont have time to farm money that much. it becomes a chore, when the game can already be that.

    no thanks.

    not everyone has RMT'ed gil or has a good reliable way to make gil when markets go slow.
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    Taisynn Arghal
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    I would rather it NOT be a payment plan. We as a Grand Company barely managed enough for our house and we use it constantly. We use it as a hangout for both our linkshell and our FC. We don’t need more things to overcome when it comes to housing.
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    Taisynn Arghal of Siren
    FC Leader of Cult of the Chocobo (18+), LGBT-Friendly Guild
    Quote Originally Posted by Kisagami View Post
    We’re all advocating for the type of game we want to see. Mine just happens to clash with yours. I like a story driven game, where people can come together as a community, and defeat challenges based on a PVE format. I want to work together. [snip] You’re not gonna like what I say, but I’m gonna say it regardless because I want Square Enix to hear the other side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisagami View Post
    I would rather it NOT be a payment plan. We as a Grand Company barely managed enough for our house and we use it constantly. We use it as a hangout for both our linkshell and our FC. We don’t need more things to overcome when it comes to housing.
    just a friendly tip, If you can get 1 airship to open zone 6 go there belive its 6/12. you can get shrub seeds which is used in crafting yard shrubs..my fc has sold alot of shrubs for 500k each to stock our fc bank
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    just a friendly tip, If you can get 1 airship to open zone 6 go there belive its 6/12. you can get shrub seeds which is used in crafting yard shrubs..my fc has sold alot of shrubs for 500k each to stock our fc bank
    We’re working on that but most of our guild mates are trying to get through storyline first.
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    Taisynn Arghal of Siren
    FC Leader of Cult of the Chocobo (18+), LGBT-Friendly Guild
    Quote Originally Posted by Kisagami View Post
    We’re all advocating for the type of game we want to see. Mine just happens to clash with yours. I like a story driven game, where people can come together as a community, and defeat challenges based on a PVE format. I want to work together. [snip] You’re not gonna like what I say, but I’m gonna say it regardless because I want Square Enix to hear the other side.

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    You keep speaking of "unused" currency. Yeah maybe YOU don't use poetics and varies currency but I don't recall requesting you to speak for rest of us. Lot of people still use poetics (trading for Topsoil is one example you can use it and obvious gearing Lv60 etc)
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    Last edited by Rinuko; 12-07-2017 at 09:27 PM.

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    If the monthly fee is low enough everyone can pay, why then having a fee in the first place?
    As many many many other said before: it won't stop the flippers anyways so there is no use for that except to create a -currency- sink which only hurts the players who are not able/willing to farm a lot of -currency-.

    No thanks, I don't think we need that. I would like to be able to keep my house even if all I do is decorating and chilling for one month straight without earning any -currency-.
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    I don't know, man.

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    I like the idea of having to maintain the house, for RP purpose, it would be really great if it was like the chocobo stable.
    just for example:
    you would have 3 conditions
    1 - Poor, your house would look quite dusty, dirty and stuff like that
    2 - Normal / Good, as we see now
    3 - Excellent, windows would be sparkling..idk stuff like this
    maybe add an option to keep house appaerence as normal.

    I still agree with OP, have to get rid of currencies and spend gil on some way
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    I'm going to vote no on this.


    You stated that having this 'upkeep' would help against house flippers and it's been pointed out that no, it would not. House flippers wouldn't keep the house long enough to trigger the cost of upkeep or would simply pay a large sum of upkeep up front and then add that cost to the total of sale.

    You stated that the cost would be negligible, like paying for armor repairs, so that it didn't impact anyone too much. In that case it is totally worthless for the purpose of being a house flipping deterrent and it's worthless as a gil/currency sink because it wouldn't siphon enough out of the system (you're talking sub 100k per month numbers at that point).

    You stated that it's good for folks who are planning trips or for whom life gets in the way. Sure, if you're planning to be gone longer than 45 days then it might be helpful to pay ahead and pause the timer but for those who find life getting in the way...chances are there was an incident that cut them off suddenly in which case oh no! Suddenly they don't have 45 days to get back online, they only have until their next payment is due. Better hope they weren't doing month to month!

    You stated it would prevent house hoarding. No, not at all. You think the people who made enough money to afford multiple houses in the first place wouldn't be able to afford multiple house upkeeps (especially if they're as cheap as you say they should be)? The answer is no. They'd still have all their houses, this would stop nobody.

    I'm also glad that you know that all my currencies are unused. That I don't turn any of my beast tribe currencies in for supplies. That I don't turn my GC seals in for ventures and crafting mats. That I don't turn poetics or hunt seals into various items/gear/trinkets. That I have nothing left to buy with MGP. Not everyone is sitting on this wealth of unused things because, surprise, if they don't have a use for the currency most folks stop doing the activities that give it. You're telling people to go out and do needless busywork. I'm sorry if I sound rude or harsh but I haven't seen you actually list any pros to this system beyond bypassing the demo timer, that seems to be the only benefit of an otherwise flawed, cumbersome, and unrealistic system. Thanks, I'd rather log in every 45 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keridwyn View Post
    I'm also glad that you know that all my currencies are unused. That I don't turn any of my beast tribe currencies in for supplies. That I don't turn my GC seals in for ventures and crafting mats. That I don't turn poetics or hunt seals into various items/gear/trinkets. That I have nothing left to buy with MGP. Not everyone is sitting on this wealth of unused things because, surprise, if they don't have a use for the currency most folks stop doing the activities that give it. You're telling people to go out and do needless busywork. I'm sorry if I sound rude or harsh but I haven't seen you actually list any pros to this system beyond bypassing the demo timer, that seems to be the only benefit of an otherwise flawed, cumbersome, and unrealistic system. Thanks, I'd rather log in every 45 days.
    I like you.
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    Very well said, Keridwyn.
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