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  1. #11
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    Ahmira Duskbloom
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    The ability to re-run Solo Duty points is a Must Have. At least the MSQ ones should be able to be replayed. Ie create a instance point that is triggered during the Unending Journey on that quest, [Do you want to re-battle? {Yes} {No}] If yes, it tosses you back in; if no it resumes the cs from the next point per normal. Would it be complicated to implement, Probably. Worth it for the player base? Likely. I'd pay to be able to rerun the Grand Melee or The Conference in Ala Mhigo to name two of the really fun solo battles.
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    "Welcome to the ranks of the blue mages. However, at this moment you are but an empty vessel--a base creature, weaker than the most ordinary mortal. A blue mage must wrest her strength and vitality from her enemies. Show me your hunger for unrivaled power! This is the only guidance I shall give you."
    ~ Final Fantasy XI Treasures of Aht Urhgan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    On singleplayer-games I normally have as many savegames as I can have, so I can jump to any point in the story I might like to repeat.

    But I'd argue its not a pointless waste of ressources, seeing how the story is one of the most important things about this and any FF-game. When they can make stuff like LoV why not this?
    But why should the devs work on something like this just to appease a very small portion of the players, especially since you can just make a new character. I know you don't want to make a whole new character for that but this isn't a single player game, the resources that are flowing into this game are at the very best minimal. I would say at least 1/4 of the player base in the game aren't even in XIV for the story or even played any of the other FF games.
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  3. #13
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    They have a system similar to this in LoTRO where each 'area' has it's own memory pools where you can visit and relive the quests that were given in the region.
    Not quite. It does not allow you to relive quests as such, but only to relive quest instances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    But why should the devs work on something like this just to appease a very small portion of the players, especially since you can just make a new character. I know you don't want to make a whole new character for that but this isn't a single player game, the resources that are flowing into this game are at the very best minimal. I would say at least 1/4 of the player base in the game aren't even in XIV for the story or even played any of the other FF games.
    For the very same reason they develop things like Savage and Ultimate. Or PvP. Or LoV. Or one could even argue: gathering, crafting, female-only clothes and more than one job per category (aka: more than one tank, healer and dps-job). I'm pretty sure that most people dont experience everything in the game - and the devs cater to that by releasing a wide amount of things to keep us busy while trying to cater to our intrests. Some intrests are shared by more people, some shared by less obviously.
    Regarding this change, I'd argue it would be a very "easy" and efficient way to give people something to do in the game for the simple reason that once they set up a system that allows to re-do quests they dont need to develop any new content specially for that system and yet give people who enjoy doing quests an aweful lot of content to do. Give a man a fish or teach him how to fish and so on.

    Right now I'm not logged into the game because theres nothing to do - if I could replay the Hilli-quests for example, I'd defintely do that though!
    By giving people the option to re-play quests they'd basically "create" an aweful lot of content without having to develop that content (a second time).
    Saying "Not everyone wants that" isnt a great argument not to put something into a game thats filled with things to pick and choose from.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    For the very same reason they develop things like Savage and Ultimate. Or PvP. Or LoV. Or one could even argue: gathering, crafting, female-only clothes and more than one job per category (aka: more than one tank, healer and dps-job). I'm pretty sure that most people dont experience everything in the game - and the devs cater to that by releasing a wide amount of things to keep us busy while trying to cater to our intrests. Some intrests are shared by more people, some shared by less obviously.
    Yes but most of the time that's new stuff released it's not like they go back and remove old raid mechanics from ARR/HW because people want to solo them or go in via unsync'd. Ever hear the term can't appease 100% of the players/people 100% of the time.

    Regarding this change, I'd argue it would be a very "easy" and efficient way to give people something to do in the game for the simple reason that once they set up a system that allows to re-do quests they dont need to develop any new content specially for that system and yet give people who enjoy doing quests an aweful lot of content to do. Give a man a fish or teach him how to fish and so on.
    You would argue for it because you want it, but that doesn't mean it's worth the effort to do so when you can arguably just make a new character. Just because you're lazy and don't want to rerun the full content doesn't mean that they should just make quests repeatable. The proverb teaching a man to fish doesn't apply to this.

    Right now I'm not logged into the game because theres nothing to do - if I could replay the Hilli-quests for example, I'd defintely do that though!
    By giving people the option to re-play quests they'd basically "create" an aweful lot of content without having to develop that content (a second time).
    Saying "Not everyone wants that" isnt a great argument not to put something into a game thats filled with things to pick and choose from.
    If you want something bad enough then there's no excuse, you just do it. For example there's a few NIN glamours I want from 2 different dungeons, one of em a 40 and the other a 60 exp both have been ran about 15 times each in order to get the glamour, but I've not gotten them yet, does that mean i'm going to give up? Nope, just makes me more determined. If you farmed a relic when they were current or even when they're not you know the suffering people had to go through to get it, they wanted it bad enough they put forth the effort.
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    Last edited by Shouko; 12-10-2017 at 02:55 AM.

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    The first time it was asked for at NA fanfest, it got a joke answer, but I could have sworn that after being asked again at other events/interviews Yoshi said they would look into making popular ones replayable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    The game sets flags based on completed quests. They would basically have to redo the quest system entirely so redoing a quest wouldn't break your character.
    I would be fine with doing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    Yes but most of the time that's new stuff released it's not like they go back and remove old raid mechanics from ARR/HW because people want to solo them or go in via unsync'd. Ever hear the term can't appease 100% of the players/people 100% of the time.
    I basically said that they dont appeal to 100% of the playerbase 100% of the time and thats fine - and certainly not a reason to brush this request of with "not everyone wants that". They are constantly giving us new incentives to re-run old raids and dungeons, because they cant possibly release enough new content to keep us busy all the time. Allowing us to re-do quests would do excatly the same: it would create "more" content without having to actually develop that content after the initial system has been set up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    You would argue for it because you want it, but that doesn't mean it's worth the effort to do so when you can arguably just make a new character. Just because you're lazy and don't want to rerun the full content doesn't mean that they should just make quests repeatable. The proverb teaching a man to fish doesn't apply to this.
    I play this game for fun and enjoyment - having to play through 50 hours of story to get to the quests I actually want to do each time I want to do them isnt fun or enjoyable.
    And heck, ofc I argue for it because I want it - thats the whole point of requesting something: To let the devs know you'd like that feature and to potentially get enough other people to say "Oh yeah, that sounds cool, I'd like that too!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    If you want something bad enough then there's no excuse, you just do it. For example there's a few NIN glamours I want from 2 different dungeons, one of em a 40 and the other a 60 exp both have been ran about 15 times each in order to get the glamour, but I've not gotten them yet, does that mean i'm going to give up? Nope, just makes me more determined. If you farmed a relic when they were current or even when they're not you know the suffering people had to go through to get it, they wanted it bad enough they put forth the effort.
    I have farmed and completed 3 relics from the initial first stage in ARR to the last one in HW. Always when they were current. I've farmed both my ponies and my birds in synched parties, each time before unsyching those duties was a thing. I've gotten my PvP-rank up to 50 so I could wear certain PvP-sets, back when wearing them was tied to having a high enough rank. Believe me: I've put in plenty of effort. But your comparison doesnt hold up in this context: Once you get those nin-glamour-items you can keep them in your inventors and re-use them everytime you want. Thats why its worth putting the effort into them - once you've got them, you can keep them forever.
    Those quests are the exact opposite: If I level up an alt to re-do them, I can do them once and after that I'd have to put the effort into leveling up again. Pretty much as if you'd farmed for those glamour-items for days and then you're allowed to glamour them once and after that you'd had to farm for them again.
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    Last edited by Vidu; 12-10-2017 at 03:38 AM.

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    Playing another character should not be an option to replay quests in a Quest game. This is still FF, whether devs or anyone doesn't want to admit, msq is -the- main feature, why put locks behind it if it's not. People want to gear other jobs, they're given crafting/gathering for option instead of telling them to play another character. There wouldn't be DF or PF or even instanced anything if people were only allowed to run duties once. It's not a sub or extra thing like raiding or gathering, those are optionals. Questing is the road leading to the theme park stuff. It's not a waste when devs put some effort on the main feature of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
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    I play the game for fun too, so does everyone else hence the point of playing a game. There are a lot of things I want in the game, there are a lot of things other people want in the game, they can't cater to them all is my point. What makes this request more special than the guy that wants housing payments, or the people that want their class/job to be buffed or skills to be taken away, any of these things are just as viable to them as this is to you.

    I'm not saying it's not a good idea but nor am I saying that we should just cater to any whimsical thought that someone has. I'm sure if there's enough support by adding your thoughts to it in game as well as the forums then maybe depending on the amount of work that needs to be done, might actually get done.
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