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    ErzaScarlet77's Avatar
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    why not have repeatable version of the story quests?

    iremember yoshi said they couldnt figure out how to let people replay the story quest, but we already have the system for repeatable quests like in the relic/holiday events quests

    why not just do that? just make it so you agree to reset the whole chain so we dont have same npc in multiple places
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    He actually said the system was already in the game; he said to make a new character.

    And I agree, it'd be a waste of dev resources in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    He actually said the system was already in the game; he said to make a new character.

    And I agree, it'd be a waste of dev resources in my opinion.
    Agreed. They waste enough time on pointless stuff already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    Agreed. They waste enough time on pointless stuff already.
    I dont see how this is "pointless" - at least for me it isnt! I play FF-games for their story and I started this game for its story. On singleplayer-games I normally have as many savegames as I can have, so I can jump to any point in the story I might like to repeat. I know your argument is going to be "But if you like the story so much, you should just play the whole story again (and you can do that)!" - but here is the thing: sometimes I'd like to refresh my memory of a certain part of the story. Or I'd like to go back and replay Hilli without having to go through 50 hours of ARR-story before. In a solo-game I can put savegames at any point I want, so I can repeat certain parts of the story (and believe me: I do that) - due to the nature of this game, I cant do that. But when the current mainstory makes a reference to something that happend in a quest from ARR that I played through 4 years ago, I'd love to go back to that quest and refresh my memory.

    I can see how this might prove to be difficult regarding flags etc. (my proposed soultion would be: just generate all the NPCs that are needed for that quest again - dont move them, just generate a second Lyse. Call her Memoryghost-Lyse, if you must. That way every set flag could stay in place, every NPC could stay in place but we could still replay a certain story-part)
    But I'd argue its not a pointless waste of ressources, seeing how the story is one of the most important things about this and any FF-game. When they can make stuff like LoV why not this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    On singleplayer-games I normally have as many savegames as I can have, so I can jump to any point in the story I might like to repeat.

    But I'd argue its not a pointless waste of ressources, seeing how the story is one of the most important things about this and any FF-game. When they can make stuff like LoV why not this?
    But why should the devs work on something like this just to appease a very small portion of the players, especially since you can just make a new character. I know you don't want to make a whole new character for that but this isn't a single player game, the resources that are flowing into this game are at the very best minimal. I would say at least 1/4 of the player base in the game aren't even in XIV for the story or even played any of the other FF games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    But why should the devs work on something like this just to appease a very small portion of the players, especially since you can just make a new character. I know you don't want to make a whole new character for that but this isn't a single player game, the resources that are flowing into this game are at the very best minimal. I would say at least 1/4 of the player base in the game aren't even in XIV for the story or even played any of the other FF games.
    For the very same reason they develop things like Savage and Ultimate. Or PvP. Or LoV. Or one could even argue: gathering, crafting, female-only clothes and more than one job per category (aka: more than one tank, healer and dps-job). I'm pretty sure that most people dont experience everything in the game - and the devs cater to that by releasing a wide amount of things to keep us busy while trying to cater to our intrests. Some intrests are shared by more people, some shared by less obviously.
    Regarding this change, I'd argue it would be a very "easy" and efficient way to give people something to do in the game for the simple reason that once they set up a system that allows to re-do quests they dont need to develop any new content specially for that system and yet give people who enjoy doing quests an aweful lot of content to do. Give a man a fish or teach him how to fish and so on.

    Right now I'm not logged into the game because theres nothing to do - if I could replay the Hilli-quests for example, I'd defintely do that though!
    By giving people the option to re-play quests they'd basically "create" an aweful lot of content without having to develop that content (a second time).
    Saying "Not everyone wants that" isnt a great argument not to put something into a game thats filled with things to pick and choose from.
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    The game sets flags based on completed quests. They would basically have to redo the quest system entirely so redoing a quest wouldn't break your character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    The game sets flags based on completed quests. They would basically have to redo the quest system entirely so redoing a quest wouldn't break your character.
    I would be fine with doing that.
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    I would like to see something like this added for certain solo duties like the 4.1 one. Add those to the Endless Journey and queue up from there.
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    They have a system similar to this in LoTRO where each 'area' has it's own memory pools where you can visit and relive the quests that were given in the region. It was a nifty feature that didn't quite do enough in my mind but gave those looking to experience certain events again some manner to complete them, though as to be expected it mostly consisted of instanced questing. If they had the time I wouldn't mind seeing a similar feature make it's way here, especially since the roadblock that is 2.1-2.55 is something many have no desire to experience wholesale once more just to replay a handful of later quests.
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